Curlin retired?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Ahh, pulling the insider card. Nice. Sorry if I offended you Chuck as it was clearly not my intention. However, please don't insult my intelligence and act like you would be defending DP if you didn't have some connection to him. That was my point.

Please display your intellegence and show us where pointing out that a horse most likely has physical issues is a defense. Do you think I care what you and jim think about the horse or any horse? What difference would it make to anyone? Point out one occasion where I have ever touted this horse or said anything overly positive about him. All I did was point out the FACT that the horse has had some issues that have led to the PUBLIC acknowledgement that he visited a clinic because of those issues which were unresolved. A career worst performance following that visit surely would make such a sharp racing mind like yours to put 2 and 2 together and conclude that perhaps something is still amiss. However i was mistaken as you are convinced that I personally am trying to defend the horse using this information in some crazy theory. You know who I am yet I have no idea who you are but you feel it is your right to make insinuations followed by backhanded apologies like the one above. Being an "insider" is hardly a bad thing and if you can't understand that knowing things that aren't privy to the public doesnt make me any better than anyone else but it does give me a far greater pool of information to form opinions on then the problem is yours.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

As I said to Eric and Bob, my intention was not what this has become. I'm not really sure why you are so insulted that I insinuated your rushing to the defense was because of your personal connection. it's a natural thing, I would do the same thing. But, by your reaction, I can tell I touched a nerve. Again, not my intention. But I have to know, what is so bad about what I insinuated?

Your insinuation was misguided and despite providing links and quotes to back an extremely plausible theory, you continued to assume that the only reason that I was saying anything was because of my connection with the horse. You actually were the one who rushed to AJ's defense when I pointed out that perhaps physical issues were more to blame for the horses poor race than the distance or two trns and he replied as if I was making something up.

[CSC]

Is it correct to assume that Divine Park's entry into the Woodward had more to do with the Owner's intentions to run rather than the Trainer's? I would be surprised Mclaughlin would run a horse of this caliber if he was less than 100% which he most likely was by his non race Saturday, something's not right here, Mclaughlin is simply too good a trainer to run a suspect horse.

[Danzig]

perhaps they went by the clean bill of health given by the clinic, while ignoring what the horse was indicating?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Danzig

perhaps they went by the clean bill of health given by the clinic, while ignoring what the horse was indicating?

I hear you there, however I am a big believer in Trainer's normal patterns when handicapping. Maybe to a fault, there are some trainer's that have enough influence to not run even against owner's wishes. I think Mclaughlin is one of those Trainer's with a big enough reputation to do as he wishes, really I am confused why he was quoted as he fully expected Divine Park to run huge Sat, when all indications now seem to point the horse wasn't right. Some will say never listen to Trainers, they are full of $%$ but from my experience I have used comments to positive results before, either laying off horses or betting them.

[Revidere]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Your insinuation was misguided and despite providing links and quotes to back an extremely plausible theory, you continued to assume that the only reason that I was saying anything was because of my connection with the horse. You actually were the one who rushed to AJ's defense when I pointed out that perhaps physical issues were more to blame for the horses poor race than the distance or two trns and he replied as if I was making something up.

My first thought watching from Del Mar was something wasnt right with DP. Then, when I watched the replay again and see Garcia look down at his right hind three times in the stretch it certainly makes you wonder if something wasn't right.

At least that's the view from this non-insider.

[Indian Charlie]

Like I predicted before this race, I think Ass has been juicing his horses with a lot less frequency lately. It's been awhile since any of his horses ran like they were possessed by demons, and that Curlin will probably look pretty mortal.

In my opinion, he's a very nice horse that was running juiced out of his mind for most of the last year to year and a half.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Like I predicted before this race, I think Ass has been juicing his horses with a lot less frequency lately. It's been awhile since any of his horses ran like they were possessed by demons, and that Curlin will probably look pretty mortal.

In my opinion, he's a very nice horse that was running juiced out of his mind for most of the last year to year and a half.

haven't you heard from maggi moss? steve asmussen would never use anything illegal, he's not stupid!