Curlin retired?

[CSC]

The bigger question mark of the race to me is what happened to Divine Park? Whether you liked him or not, seems I was the only one to like him going into the race, wrong I was. I don't think anyone would have expected such a non race from him as what he showed Saturday, obviously he never looked comfortable over the track. It's one thing to have first run on the leader and fade, which could be explained, but the horse never even raised a hoof in the race. To me the same question mark of how far he wants to go still exists after the Woodward, as this race cannot be taken at face value from such a non effort.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by CSC

The bigger question mark of the race to me is what happened to Divine Park? Whether you liked him or not, seems I was the only one to like him going into the race, wrong I was. I don't think anyone would have expected such a non race from him as what he showed Saturday, obviously he never looked comfortable over the track. It's one thing to have first run on the leader and fade, which could be explained, but the horse never even raised a hoof in the race. To me the same question mark of how far he wants to go still exists after the Woodward, as this race cannot be taken at face value from such a non effort.

i wouldn't give him any excuse, I'd say he's not ready for big-time 2 turn races. I also had expected more, but it wasn't there.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

i wouldn't give him any excuse, I'd say he's not ready for big-time 2 turn races. I also had expected more, but it wasn't there.

He seemingly wasnt right physically. A month ago he was at a clinic getting checked out for a mystery ailment.

[AeWingnut]

I still can't believe Wanderin Boy held on and Loose Leaf failed to keep coming.

The pace was real race horse time. Robbie was worried and seemed to whip Curlin more for this one than he did for the DWC. not because he was concerned about getting the win but a bad beyer fig

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He seemingly wasnt right physically. A month ago he was at a clinic getting checked out for a mystery ailment.

what does that mean, seemingly wasn't right? and what exactly is a mystery ailment?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

what does that mean, seemingly wasn't right? and what exactly is a mystery ailment?

He was finished before he hit the turn and was much further back than simply an off race and was sent to the clinic because they thought something was wrong with him 4 weeks ago. They couldnt determine the source of the problem but there was certainly an issue to have sent him. McLaughlin was very open about it. Remember that Rags to Riches was given a thumbs up by new Bolton center right before she broke down. There is rarely such a thing as just an off day without some kind of physical issue however minor.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He was finished before he hit the turn and was much further back than simply an off race and was sent to the clinic because they thought something was wrong with him 4 weeks ago. They couldnt determine the source of the problem but there was certainly an issue to have sent him. McLaughlin was very open about it. Remember that Rags to Riches was given a thumbs up by new Bolton center right before she broke down. There is rarely such a thing as just an off day without some kind of physical issue however minor.

perhaps there was a physical issue, but he is also not proven out to be able to run that fast and sustain it through the second turn. either way, i won't be playing him any time soon.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

perhaps there was a physical issue, but he is also not proven out to be able to run that fast and sustain it through the second turn. either way, i won't be playing him any time soon.

He won the Met Mile where they went much faster fractions, I'm sure if the second turn or distance were the issue he would have made it further than six furlongs before stopping so badly. Why is it so implausable that he has some kind of physical issue especially considering that his recent past?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I don't suppose it's possible Curlin had an off day with some minor physical issue?

If he had been shipped to a clinic in the past month to look for an issue it would be more likely. I would also doubt that he would run unless 100% given the amount of **** that would be throw Assmussens way if he were to break down.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

It just comes off a bit hypocritical that you defend Divine Park's performance. Trust me, I believe you that he has and probably still has physical issues. But on the other hand are not even open to the possibility that Curlin's somewhat subpar performance, in which he still won the race, could be explained by him not being 100%. Add to it your personal connection to Devine Park.

Where is there a defense? He missed a month of works and was sent to a clinic to get checked out. In his next start he gets beat 25 lengths. This is a defense? It looks to me to be logical that something was amiss instaed of blaming the distance which is a whole 220 yards further than his grade 1 win. If Curlin wasnt 100% I'm sure we would have heard about it.

[ELA]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

It just comes off a bit hypocritical that you defend Divine Park's performance. Trust me, I believe you that he has and probably still has physical issues. But on the other hand are not even open to the possibility that Curlin's somewhat subpar performance, in which he still won the race, could be explained by him not being 100%. Add to it your personal connection to Devine Park.

I won't speak to the "personal connection" aspect, but I do see your point. However, be that as it may, do you not really see the difference between the two? While the personal connection might cloud one person's judgement, that can cut both ways.

I see the two in completely different ways. I too wouldn't be shocked if Curlin came out of the race with "something" but that's neither here nor there.

Eric