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Old 08-29-2008, 10:34 AM
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Details of Palin's personal life have contributed to her political image. She hunts, eats moose hamburger, ice fishes, rides snowmobiles, and owns a float plane.[11][12] Palin holds a lifetime membership with the National Rifle Association. She admits that she used marijuana when it was legal in Alaska, but says that she did not like it.
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Old 08-29-2008, 10:37 AM
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God, I hate that **** I just smoked, too

Why hasn't Morty weighed in? Is he sitting in his chair, right hand frozen around his member, mouth agape at this shocking news?
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Old 08-29-2008, 10:43 AM
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that choice will win McCain most, if not all, the midwest states that picked Hillary in the primary (OH, PA, KY, WV). Which should be enough to sink Obama, or at least I hope so.
Last thing I want is to see the taxes on my investments go up to 40%, which is the stupid Obama plan, as that will take out the middle class, as everyone will lose 40% of their IRA, 401k or pension.... all of which is money invested one way or another.
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Old 08-29-2008, 10:47 AM
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that choice will win McCain most, if not all, the midwest states that picked Hillary in the primary (OH, PA, KY, WV). Which should be enough to sink Obama, or at least I hope so.
Last thing I want is to see the taxes on my investments go up to 40%, which is the stupid Obama plan, as that will take out the middle class, as everyone will lose 40% of their IRA, 401k or pension.... all of which is money invested one way or another.
thank you for this reality post! Obamas' plans would cripple most Americans.
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Old 08-29-2008, 10:47 AM
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that choice will win McCain most, if not all, the midwest states that picked Hillary in the primary (OH, PA, KY, WV). Which should be enough to sink Obama, or at least I hope so.
Last thing I want is to see the taxes on my investments go up to 40%, which is the stupid Obama plan, as that will take out the middle class, as everyone will lose 40% of their IRA, 401k or pension.... all of which is money invested one way or another.
sniper showed me this site. I think you need it.

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Old 08-29-2008, 10:55 AM
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that choice will win McCain most, if not all, the midwest states that picked Hillary in the primary (OH, PA, KY, WV). Which should be enough to sink Obama, or at least I hope so.
Last thing I want is to see the taxes on my investments go up to 40%, which is the stupid Obama plan, as that will take out the middle class, as everyone will lose 40% of their IRA, 401k or pension.... all of which is money invested one way or another.
wow. sharp analysis.

i'm sure all the pro life hillary voters will be lining up behind this ticket now. that one or two votes may swing the election.
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Old 08-29-2008, 11:11 AM
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On Nov 4th when they count the votes...this is what the Dem ticket will be saying...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGQ-ISsDm8M
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Old 08-29-2008, 11:16 AM
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I like that mcCain isnt scared to take a chance.

I guess it will be hard to knock Obama's experience when the VP candidate has been governor since December 2006 and before that was mayor of a town of 6000 people.

This should be the most entertaining election since...
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Old 08-29-2008, 11:18 AM
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I like that mcCain isnt scared to take a chance.

I guess it will be hard to knock Obama's experience when the VP candidate has been governor since December 2006 and before that was mayor of a town of 6000 people.

This should be the most entertaining election since...
She's the ONLY one of the 4 (Obama, Biden, McCain or Palin) with any leadership experience at all. None of the others have RUN any area. Legislature, yes, executive office, NO.
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Old 08-29-2008, 11:20 AM
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I like that mcCain isnt scared to take a chance.

I guess it will be hard to knock Obama's experience when the VP candidate has been governor since December 2006 and before that was mayor of a town of 6000 people.

This should be the most entertaining election since...

She is the only one with Executive experience....
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Old 08-29-2008, 11:07 AM
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that choice will win McCain most, if not all, the midwest states that picked Hillary in the primary (OH, PA, KY, WV). Which should be enough to sink Obama, or at least I hope so.
Last thing I want is to see the taxes on my investments go up to 40%, which is the stupid Obama plan, as that will take out the middle class, as everyone will lose 40% of their IRA, 401k or pension.... all of which is money invested one way or another.
You don't know what you are talking about. Obama would raise the top tax rate from 35% to 39% and would also raise cap gains from 15% to 20-28%.

Both of those would be for incomes over $250,000/year.

Really, you should learn at least the very most rudimental of the policy positions, if you are going to criticize them.

Meanwhile, there are several tax breaks for middle class families.

It is hard for reasonable people to conclude the wealthy have not benefited disproportionately from Bush policy. And, according to McFossil, if you don't make $5,000,000.00 a year, you are not wealthy.
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Old 08-29-2008, 11:17 AM
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Obama would raise the top tax rate from 35% to 39% and would also raise cap gains from 15% to 20-28%.
Obama was on CNBC and stated his capital gains tax plan a couple months ago (they interviewed Obama, Clinton and McCain and asked them their tax plan for investments). Raise from what's now taxed at your tax bracket, to 40% across the board was Obama's answer (Hillary wanted to raise them to 28-31%). The democrooks call it a tax on the rich, but in reality, it will be a HUGE tax on the middle class, as the majority of investment $$ out there is everyone's 401k, IRA and/or pension... which the last time I looked, was not the rich, but the working class.
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Old 08-29-2008, 11:19 AM
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Obama was on CNBC and stated his capital gains tax plan a couple months ago (they interviewed Obama, Clinton and McCain and asked them their tax plan for investments). Raise from what's now taxed at your tax bracket, to 40% across the board was Obama's answer (Hillary wanted to raise them to 28-31%). The democrooks call it a tax on the rich, but in reality, it will be a HUGE tax on the middle class, as the majority of investment $$ out there is everyone's 401k, IRA and/or pension... which the last time I looked, was not the rich, but the working class.
factcheck.org

on top of that read:

investments for dummies
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Old 08-29-2008, 12:34 PM
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factcheck.org

on top of that read:

investments for dummies

i don't go by what some internet site says on anything political... I go by what comes straight out of someone's mouth.

with regards to investments... let's see.... moved here straight out of college with basically no $$ at all (less than $2k net worth), took every extra cent that I made and invested it when was working, stopped working when was 31 and have not had to the last 7 years... I must be doing something right!
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Old 08-29-2008, 03:14 PM
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Obama was on CNBC and stated his capital gains tax plan a couple months ago (they interviewed Obama, Clinton and McCain and asked them their tax plan for investments). Raise from what's now taxed at your tax bracket, to 40% across the board was Obama's answer (Hillary wanted to raise them to 28-31%). The democrooks call it a tax on the rich, but in reality, it will be a HUGE tax on the middle class, as the majority of investment $$ out there is everyone's 401k, IRA and/or pension... which the last time I looked, was not the rich, but the working class.


Or here.

just google OBAMA TAX PLAN

and then after that google LONG TERM CAPITAL GAINS TAXES
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Old 08-29-2008, 03:25 PM
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**** all this arguing and bickering, just tell me what you are doing so I don't have to work in two years
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Obama was on CNBC and stated his capital gains tax plan a couple months ago (they interviewed Obama, Clinton and McCain and asked them their tax plan for investments). Raise from what's now taxed at your tax bracket, to 40% across the board was Obama's answer (Hillary wanted to raise them to 28-31%). The democrooks call it a tax on the rich, but in reality, it will be a HUGE tax on the middle class, as the majority of investment $$ out there is everyone's 401k, IRA and/or pension... which the last time I looked, was not the rich, but the working class.
40% across the board...and we think the track hold is criminal. I work hard, pay high income taxes now- have a business that provides jobs for numerous people- and in the event I have a few bucks at the end of the day to invest, somebody wants to take 40% of what I earn on that? God forbid I may one day manage to get past all of that and leave it to my family because they'll take over half of that when I die.
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40% across the board...and we think the track hold is criminal. I work hard, pay high income taxes now- have a business that provides jobs for numerous people- and in the event I have a few bucks at the end of the day to invest, somebody wants to take 40% of what I earn on that? God forbid I may one day manage to get past all of that and leave it to my family because they'll take over half of that when I die.

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that choice will win McCain most, if not all, the midwest states that picked Hillary in the primary (OH, PA, KY, WV). Which should be enough to sink Obama, or at least I hope so.
Last thing I want is to see the taxes on my investments go up to 40%, which is the stupid Obama plan, as that will take out the middle class, as everyone will lose 40% of their IRA, 401k or pension.... all of which is money invested one way or another.
Okay, and you still dont know the difference between a long term gain and a short term capital gain?

Please tell me that you were just messing around with the above so that i can actually believe at least some portion of everything else that you have said.
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Old 08-29-2008, 03:26 PM
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Okay, and you still dont know the difference between a long term gain and a short term capital gain?
short term - held under a year (1040 sch D part 1)
long term - held over a year (1040 sch D part 2)
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