I never seen any trouble for Mambo In Seattle

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by GPK

PGbonics??

I wouldn't go making fun of SJD's linguistic skills. I ribbed him about being from Kentucky once and he sent me this totally nutty private message.

I think he's made great strides in his posting skills, so I'm going to attribute this thread to fatigue or illness, and hope he resumes his course of improving English skills.

Mambo is the only Real Racehorse coming out of the Travers.
Very serious BCC Contender IMO.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by hrfan

Mambo is the only Real Racehorse coming out of the Travers.
Very serious BCC Contender IMO.

I thought he was sired by Kingmambo, not Giant's Causeway.

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I thought he was sired by Kingmambo, not Giant's Causeway.

What does that have to do with anything ? They are both great sire's, but at this point Giant's Causeway has a long long way to go before catching Kingmambo.

[herkhorse]

Too funny, thanks for the early morning laugh.

[Kasept]

"Nobody knows the trouble I've seen..."

Not sure who, if anyone, said Mambo had trouble in the race... The 'problem' he had was Albarado's inability to find a better route of egress than the 9 path off the turn..

As I admitted on ATR last night, I am an unabashed fan of Neil Howard and his horses. We've become friends, and he is perhaps the most gracious guy I've met yet in the game... And Mr. Farish is unquestionably one of the last true gentlemen in the sport. Losing last year with Grasshopper to Jim Tafel and a better horse in Street Sense was one thing... Mambo in Seattle was likely the better horse Saturday and I expect that to prove out by this time next year. And while I respect Eion Harty, it's hard to believe that anyone would root for WinStar (Casner, Walden, et al..) over an outfit like the Farish-Howard camp.

[sdjcom]

Originally Posted by Kasept

"Nobody knows the trouble I've seen..."

Not sure who, if anyone, said Mambo had trouble in the race... The 'problem' he had was Albarado's inability to find a better route of egress than the 9 path off the turn..

As I admitted on ATR last night, I am an unabashed fan of Neil Howard and his horses. We've become friends, and he is perhaps the most gracious guy I've met yet in the game... And Mr. Farish is unquestionably one of the last true gentlemen in the sport. Losing last year with Grasshopper to Jim Tafel and a better horse in Street Sense was one thing... Mambo in Seattle was likely the better horse Saturday and I expect that to prove out by this time next year. And while I respect Eion Harty, it's hard to believe that anyone would root for WinStar (Casner, Walden, et al..) over an outfit like the Farish-Howard camp.

I understand your position , because you are so close to the owners, trainers and form some close friendships. As for me i bet and cheer for the horse i like regardless of the connections. I'm sure if i had friendships with some connections it would be different, as far as the cry-baby comment i do this all the time when i lose. I just wanted to start a thread for discussion, imean nothing personal in any of my posts, just type what i feel at the time. I value your opinion and respect your enthusiam, and enjoy your show immensely. so once once again my posts are in the spirit of debate.

[jpops757]

Originally Posted by Kasept

"Nobody knows the trouble I've seen..."

Not sure who, if anyone, said Mambo had trouble in the race... The 'problem' he had was Albarado's inability to find a better route of egress than the 9 path off the turn..

As I admitted on ATR last night, I am an unabashed fan of Neil Howard and his horses. We've become friends, and he is perhaps the most gracious guy I've met yet in the game... And Mr. Farish is unquestionably one of the last true gentlemen in the sport. Losing last year with Grasshopper to Jim Tafel and a better horse in Street Sense was one thing... Mambo in Seattle was likely the better horse Saturday and I expect that to prove out by this time next year. And while I respect Eion Harty, it's hard to believe that anyone would root for WinStar (Casner, Walden, et al..) over an outfit like the Farish-Howard camp.

Did he get up for second because he went 9 wide or would he have not hit the board if he tried an inside trip? CJ even with his troubles won . Isnt that the way it is most of the time. A gutty winner and a game second, isnt the way we like it to be? Kinda like a horserace.

[slotdirt]

Captain Caveman speaks!

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by jpops757

Did he get up for second because he went 9 wide or would he have not hit the board if he tried an inside trip? CJ even with his troubles won . Isnt that the way it is most of the time. A gutty winner and a game second, isnt the way we like it to be? Kinda like a horserace.

Not sure what you're saying here as a response to what I wrote. In fact, it is indecipherable.

"Get up for 2nd?" That would imply that Mambo in Seattle arrived late on the scene passing horses near the finish to gain the placement behind a clear winner. In fact, he hooked up with the winner approaching midstretch and dueled to the wire to lose what was the closest photograph in the history of the Travers, and one that many thought a dead heat.

My point was empathy for Howard and what I believe was the better horse Saturday in Mambo in Seattle, and additionally that while Colonel John is an admirable horse having a nice year, the Casner/Walden WinStar team are not endearing subjects for fan adulation.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Kasept

... Mambo in Seattle was likely the better horse Saturday and I expect that to prove out by this time next year. And while I respect Eion Harty, it's hard to believe that anyone would root for WinStar (Casner, Walden, et al..) over an outfit like the Farish-Howard camp.

Not so sure about that. Colonel John may end up the male counterpart to Ginger Punch. His slowness aside, CJ has twice now shown shades of his sire's tenacity when looked in the eye by hard-charging rivals. He rebroke nearing the wire in the Sham when El Gato Malo tried to inhale him this winter at Santa Anita. Now he's fended off Mambo In Seattle after Gomez pulled him to the middle of the track to engage MIS in the final 1/16th of the Travers.

Mr. Harty's name is actually spelled "Eoin" by the way...

[ELA]

Neil Howard is a 100% class act. I too spoke with him, simply to congratulate him on an excellent job in getting this horse ready for the Travers. I think he did an incredible job. He was humble and extremely confident -- yet silent in his confidence -- going into this race. This horse was training like a monster. Neil is also an excellent horseman.

He took the defeat and exuded class by saying he got beat by a better horse. No excuses, blame, gripes, etc., and that race probably cost them about $5 million or so, but that had no bearing on his post-race feelings.

Eric

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Now he's fended off Mambo In Seattle after Gomez pulled him to the middle of the track to engage MIS in the final 1/16th of the Travers.

What race is everyone watching? MIS was AHEAD of CJ BEFORE and
AFTER the wire. CJ was just lucky to get his nose down at precisely the right time in a ridiculously close photo. Same applies to Ginger Punch.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Not so sure about that. Colonel John may end up the male counterpart to Ginger Punch. His slowness aside, CJ has twice now shown shades of his sire's tenacity when looked in the eye by hard-charging rivals. He rebroke nearing the wire in the Sham when El Gato Malo tried to inhale him this winter at Santa Anita. Now he's fended off Mambo In Seattle after Gomez pulled him to the middle of the track to engage MIS in the final 1/16th of the Travers.

Mr. Harty's name is actually spelled "Eoin" by the way...

no it's not. it's "owen". just because he's been spelling it wrong his whole life is no reason for the rest of us to be enablers.