russia vs georgia

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont think GW picked Putin, he played the hand he was dealt. Honestly didnt you ever take political science? Almost everything top pols say in public are scripted, usually by a strgetist. What was he going to say? I really dont trust this dude? He has nukes but lets insult him? it is all just noise, not real words.

No he did not.

Well then GW picked people to help him speak... no more needs
to be said on this. Bad.

He did not need to look into his soul to evaluate him
and let the world know.

[Cannon Shell]

What difference does it make what GW said about Putin 6 or 7 years ago? What exactly is he supposed to say when th guy is standing right there and just opened his country to western investment? "Hey the dude is KGB, he is going to screw us eventually so lets invade now?"

The fact is that Putin is dangerous and there is nothing that GW or anybody else can do to change this or change the fact that the Russians have been pissed off for a long time and want to regain their position of power? We didnt put him in place, Russia isnt some third world country that others can control. They are a nuclear power with a lot of money, natural resources, bombs, soldiers and ties with bad guys that want to hurt us. Hell we may wind up allies with China before this whole thing is over. That is not exactly a regime without blood on their hnds.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What difference does it make what GW said about Putin 6 or 7 years ago? What exactly is he supposed to say when th guy is standing right there and just opened his country to western investment? "Hey the dude is KGB, he is going to screw us eventually so lets invade now?"

The fact is that Putin is dangerous and there is nothing that GW or anybody else can do to change this or change the fact that the Russians have been pissed off for a long time and want to regain their position of power? We didnt put him in place, Russia isnt some third world country that others can control. They are a nuclear power with a lot of money, natural resources, bombs, soldiers and ties with bad guys that want to hurt us. Hell we may wind up allies with China before this whole thing is over. That is not exactly a regime without blood on their hnds.

i gave up political astrology years ago but if someone made me pick, i'd say a us-russian alliance opposed to a chinese superpower was more likely.

let's check in on whatever replaces the internet in 20 years.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i gave up political astrology years ago but if someone made me pick, i'd say a us-russian alliance opposed to a chinese superpower was more likely.

let's check in on whatever replaces the internet in 20 years.

The Chinese aint real friendly with Russia and they need oil.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The Chinese aint real friendly with Russia and they need oil.

right.

all the more reason for us to pal up with a supplier.

[hi_im_god]

anyone want to bet that if we let the georgian leadership decide how this ends, the cockroaches win? <----(not an analogy)

little countries can be badly led and the consequences are little. big countries need adults in charge.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

right.

all the more reason for us to pal up with a supplier.

They dont need us and we are too far away for them to supply us with much. Scary thought is if they strike a deal with the Chinese

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They dont need us and we are too far away for them to supply us with much. Scary thought is if they strike a deal with the Chinese

oil is a global market. it doesn't matter who you sell it to. the chinese can buy all the russian oil and all that means is there is more saudi oil available. the global price is the same.

unless you think the russians have the last drop of oil, proximity is meaningless.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What difference does it make what GW said about Putin 6 or 7 years ago? What exactly is he supposed to say when th guy is standing right there and just opened his country to western investment? "Hey the dude is KGB, he is going to screw us eventually so lets invade now?"

The fact is that Putin is dangerous and there is nothing that GW or anybody else can do to change this or change the fact that the Russians have been pissed off for a long time and want to regain their position of power? We didnt put him in place, Russia isnt some third world country that others can control. They are a nuclear power with a lot of money, natural resources, bombs, soldiers and ties with bad guys that want to hurt us. Hell we may wind up allies with China before this whole thing is over. That is not exactly a regime without blood on their hnds.

Oh but there was a time when we had a lot to say about Putin.
Giving him the international recognition and backing when others
in Russia were vying for power was a horrible miscalculation. WE and
other Western countries evaluated leadership when it was up for grabs
and may have got it horribly wrong.