Iavarone afraid ?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

I'll say there's no reason for you to call Dutrow a name like that. Look at what he has accomplish after a rough life. look at his grade 1 wins purse money, etc.. Do you know him personally? If not they statment is out of line.
Sure he is loud big mouth, boastful, however he does back up most of his talk with performances he gets out of his horses. Why is there so much hate for a man that nobody on the website even knows personally.

I'll say there's no reason for you to defend Dutrow. Look at what he has done that led to his rough life. Look at his multiple medication violations, suspensions, etc. Do you know him personally? If not, you're out of line.

He is a loud big mouth, boastful, but then turns yellow when Curlin and Congress comes-a-callin'. Why is there so much love for a man that nobody on the website even knows personally?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I'll say there's no reason for you to defend Dutrow. Look at what he has done that led to his rough life. Look at his multiple medication violations, suspensions, etc. Do you know him personally? If not, you're out of line.

He is a loud big mouth, boastful, but then turns yellow when Curlin and Congress comes-a-callin'. Why is there so much love for a man that nobody on the website even knows personally?

Good post.

And Steve Asmussen is a saint? This is ri-goddamn-diculous how the majority of this board hates on Team Brown and sucks the balls of Team Curlin.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

And Steve Asmussen is a saint? This is ri-goddamn-diculous how the majority of this board hates on Team Brown and sucks the balls of Team Curlin.

Lesser of two evils in this situation. Mainly I just think it's funny how defensive the guy got about Dutrow.

[pick4]

All you guys are hard core racing fans. Are you going to alter your day to make sure you'll be able to watch Big Brown face a few stiffs in on the second Saturday of September?

[sdjcom]

Originally Posted by pick4

All you guys are hard core racing fans. Are you going to alter your day to make sure you'll be able to watch Big Brown face a few stiffs in on the second Saturday of September?

Yes

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

Yes

I don't know about you, but it takes a lot of effort to walk from my computer to the TV.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

And Steve Asmussen is a saint? This is ri-goddamn-diculous how the majority of this board hates on Team Brown and sucks the balls of Team Curlin.

There's no reason for you to call Steve Asmussen a name like that. Do you know him personally? If not, you shouldn't be talking about him on a racing message board.

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

There's no reason for you to call Steve Asmussen a name like that. Do you know him personally? If not, you shouldn't be talking about him on a racing message board.

Asmussen would clearly be devastated knowing Pillow
gave him a keyboard smiting.

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

There's no reason for you to call Steve Asmussen a name like that. Do you know him personally? If not, you shouldn't be talking about him on a racing message board.

LULZ.

You're right. He's probably had a hard life.

[sdjcom]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I'll say there's no reason for you to defend Dutrow. Look at what he has done that led to his rough life. Look at his multiple medication violations, suspensions, etc. Do you know him personally? If not, you're out of line.

He is a loud big mouth, boastful, but then turns yellow when Curlin and Congress comes-a-callin'. Why is there so much love for a man that nobody on the website even knows personally?

FIrst of all I do not know him personally. secondly if you think all the other big time trainers like Asmussen Pletcher, etc do not cheat and use illegal drugs and don't get suspensions (Amussen) then your head is in the sand. I have nothing wrong with someone disliking a trainer and saying so , it's their right. But to call a man a fat pig is for 12 yr old juveniles not a adult man. i just hate to see this forum turn into a grade school foul mouth name calling
site. Let's agree to disagree but name calling? Let's have a little more class than this.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

FIrst of all I do not know him personally. secondly if you think all the other big time trainers like Asmussen Pletcher, etc do not cheat and use illegal drugs and don't get suspensions (Amussen) then your head is in the sand.

Are you calling me an ostrich?

Do I even know you?

[RollerDoc]

For a horse that has won five out of six Grade 1 races including the Derby and Preakness, how is this horse so disrespected by some of you? If you want to disrespect Big Brown's connections, I get that, but this has been a very good quality horse for us to enjoy this year.

Since the Preakness (5-0), he gets so much blustering on here. Here's what happened since then:

How about a pass on The Belmont? Gimme a break. Third race in five weeks and who knows why he didn't show up, just speculation. But it wasn't the same Big Brown. You don't think he would normally beat Da'Tara a horse that finished the Florida Derby when Big Brown was a zipcode past the finish line?

And then there was The Haskell that hardly any on here give him credit for. His chasing down Coal Play to win is very similar to Affirmed chasing the front running Sensitive Prince in the last 100 yards in the Jim Dandy that Laz Barrera considered one of Affirmed's finest efforts. Big Brown did the same thing and gets little credit.


Memo to Big Brown Bashers........."Give it a rest."

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Memo to Big Brown Bashers........."Give it a rest."

Memo to Big Brown Nosers...."Give him a rest".

Wasn't, by all accounts, his Haskell visually unimpressive, getting left for dead on the turn, full out and under a savage right-handed whip, before finally reeling in a tiring allowance horse while drifting out considerably through the lane?

And yet, still, if you buy it, he got one of his best speed figures? Just think how good he would be with some time off and 4 good feet under him.

If he stays in training (I realize the plan is to retire him at the end of the year), he could end up finishing his campaign the way Touch Gold did (see the '97 Pegasus and BC Classic).

Aside from their ridiculous boasting, IEAH take a lot flack here because they are basically not doing right by Big Brown. They aren't giving him a shot to be the horse they claim he is (by not running him at 4) and his continued campaigning this year is somewhat reckless if you think he has significant physical problems (namely his quarter crack).

[RollerDoc]

[quote=RolloTomasi]Memo to Big Brown Nosers...."Give him a rest".

Wasn't, by all accounts, his Haskell visually unimpressive, getting left for dead on the turn, full out and under a savage right-handed whip, before finally reeling in a tiring allowance horse while drifting out considerably through the lane?


QUOTE]

Haskell victory was quite impressive. It proved he could win from behind, something he never needed to do.

And if you are going to use the "savage right-handed whip card" then you might as well include the majority of other champions in the same breath.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Haskell victory was quite impressive. It proved he could win from behind, something he never needed to do.

And if you are going to use the "savage right-handed whip card" then you might as well include the majority of other champions in the same breath.

Did he win the Derby and Preakness wire-to-wire?

And how far out of it exactly was he in the Haskell? A length and a half, maybe?

Most of the problems he "overcame" in the Haskell probably had more to do with his own physical condition then any circumstances related to how the race setup or was ultimately run.

In that regard, Big Brown's Haskell was a step below his other performances, and a red flag as far as future efforts are concerned. Of course, if the Belmont effort didn't cause them to back off, certainly him winning in New Jersey isn't going to stop IEAH from their masterplan.

[stonegossard]

[quote=RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Memo to Big Brown Nosers...."Give him a rest".

Wasn't, by all accounts, his Haskell visually unimpressive, getting left for dead on the turn, full out and under a savage right-handed whip, before finally reeling in a tiring allowance horse while drifting out considerably through the lane?


QUOTE]

Haskell victory was quite impressive. It proved he could win from behind, something he never needed to do.

And if you are going to use the "savage right-handed whip card" then you might as well include the majority of other champions in the same breath.

Umm newsflash...he was further back in the Derby. Also was off the pace in The Preakness. At least get your facts somewhat straight.

What was impressive about The Haskell? He sat a perfect trip 2nd to an average horse...then he was all out to beat him. BB didnt pass Zito's horse....Zito's horse slowed down enough in the final 100 yds for BB to get by.

[sdjcom]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Are you calling me an ostrich?

Do I even know you?

OOPS! now you got me calling people names. I 'm sorry. lol