Lava Man and the Pac Classic.

[GPK]

Thanks for the input guys. These are the kind of discusions that make this board so much fun.

Ok...I know the draw isn't until tonight and Papi Chullo is out. We all know that Perfect Drift and Giacomo are gonna be hanging out at the back of the race and both will come running. That being said, he is going to go up front with Lava Man and put some pressure on him?

[Gander]

I just can no bet against or root against this horse Kev. His stumbling in his last race threw him off from his normal style, he was ridden very well, took control and was able to hold off a horse who had a perfect trip. He won the race. Lots of horses would have folded. He is a true warrior. I hope he romps home here and puts another feather in his cap. Hes going to make an outstanding horse of the year. A real people's horse. Its about time.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Gander

I just can no bet against or root against this horse Kev. His stumbling in his last race threw him off from his normal style, he was ridden very well, took control and was able to hold off a horse who had a perfect trip. He won the race. Lots of horses would have folded. He is a true warrior. I hope he romps home here and puts another feather in his cap. Hes going to make an outstanding horse of the year. A real people's horse. Its about time.

Tim, I was awake at about 2:30 this morning, so I decided to log onto calracing and watch his races from this year. I really gained a whole new respect for him last night. He just kept turning back all challengers and winning by wide margins. You know how much I love horses with big hearts like that and he clearly has a very big heart. I was just curious as to what everyone thought about his last race. I figure to get a wide variety of answers. He did look like a different horse in his last, where he stumbled. I am just curious if he is beatable at a short price.

[LARHAGE]

Originally Posted by GPK

Tim, I was awake at about 2:30 this morning, so I decided to log onto calracing and watch his races from this year. I really gained a whole new respect for him last night. He just kept turning back all challengers and winning by wide margins. You know how much I love horses with big hearts like that and he clearly has a very big heart. I was just curious as to what everyone thought about his last race. I figure to get a wide variety of answers. He did look like a different horse in his last, where he stumbled. I am just curious if he is beatable at a short price.

This is exactly why I love this horse, he probably wasn't at his best for this race, yet in spite of it he still won, on pure guts, no folding from this boy ever, he is a trier no matter what the situation.

[Buffymommy]

Tri box: PD/Giacomo/LM

I have a sneaky feeling Giacomo is going to shock us again. I think Lava is tired (But I am admitting that right now this horse is HOY in my book so I am not bashing him), PD is going to hit the front and Giacomo is going to come with his run. Whether or not he will get by Drifty I don't know, kinda afraid he will, but I am hoping not. Lava will be a half length behind PD. This is just a senerio in my head.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Buffymommy

Tri box: PD/Giacomo/LM

I have a sneaky feeling Giacomo is going to shock us again. I think Lava is tired (But I am admitting that right now this horse is HOY in my book so I am not bashing him), PD is going to hit the front and Giacomo is going to come with his run. Whether or not he will get by Drifty I don't know, kinda afraid he will, but I am hoping not. Lava will be a half length behind PD. This is just a senerio in my head.

Scenario, or dream??? LOL...Have to admire your dedication to PD, but he hasn't won in two years and I don't see things changing this weekend. I certainly see him 2nd or 3rd, as usual, but hard to endorse him on top. You would think by now that people would LOAD UP on PD in the place and show pools, yet they continue to still throw $$$ at him in the win pool. How he went off at even money to me at Arlington a few weeks ago still boggles my mind. Hard to knock the old fella for still running and the connections are lucky to have a horse that keeps making them money in big races. PD always runs his game, that you can count on, but the only problem is that his game is 2nd or 3rd place.

[Thunder Gulch]

My confusion is whether do take the all/ drift/ all trifecta, or the all/ all/ drift trifecta.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

My confusion is whether do take the all/ drift/ all trifecta, or the all/ all/ drift trifecta.

they are both clearly the smartest bets to make.

[Buffymommy]

I liked what his trainer had to say about him in that bloodhorse article yesterday. I really like this horse. He does have a tendency to get caught in the final strides (which is why Giacomo scares me). Oh a horse scares me uh-oh!

Also, Magnum. What do you all make of this horse?

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by GPK

Scenario, or dream??? LOL...Have to admire your dedication to PD, but he hasn't won in two years and I don't see things changing this weekend. I certainly see him 2nd or 3rd, as usual, but hard to endorse him on top. You would think by now that people would LOAD UP on PD in the place and show pools, yet they continue to still throw $$$ at him in the win pool. How he went off at even money to me at Arlington a few weeks ago still boggles my mind. Hard to knock the old fella for still running and the connections are lucky to have a horse that keeps making them money in big races. PD always runs his game, that you can count on, but the only problem is that his game is 2nd or 3rd place.

won the washington park last year

[GPK]

Originally Posted by pdrift1

won the washington park last year

excuse me...was just going by something I thought that I read where he had not won in 2 years. I was wrong and I stand corrected.

As far as you commenting on me being blind about him not winning another G1 before he retires, I'm afraid that you are mistaken, because no where did I ever say that he wouldn't. I said that his game (especially of late) has been coming in 2nd or 3rd and if YOU can't see that from looking at his PP's, I am afraid you are the blind one.

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by GPK

excuse me...was just going by something I thought that I read where he had not won in 2 years. I was wrong and I stand corrected.

As far as you commenting on me being blind about him not winning another G1 before he retires, I'm afraid that you are mistaken, because no where did I ever say that he wouldn't. I said that his game (especially of late) has been coming in 2nd or 3rd and if YOU can't see that from looking at his PP's, I am afraid you are the blind one.

i understand that you didnt make that comment straight out that he wouldnt win. but(that his his game of late has been 2nd and 3rds? this is why i pointed out the foster in my thread, pp's or not when you watched that race and the margin of loss, that could be considered just as good as a win, or a win, when its that close your splitting hairs. we were that close in the foster to not even having this discussion. that race alone is different then the plethora of other races hes taken 2nd in by noses heads, half lengths or lengths in grade 1 competition. kev your a good guy , i'm not trying to argue just sticking up for drifty