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Old 07-31-2008, 04:50 PM
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They could field the worst defensive team in recent history with Pierre in CF, Manny in Left, Nomar at SS and kent at second.
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Old 08-10-2008, 06:23 PM
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Where was Mrs. Broxton tonight?
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Old 08-10-2008, 07:18 PM
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Where was Mrs. Broxton tonight?
Broxton didn't come close last night. Giants are in his head. He is useless right now against the Giants. Fact is the Dodgers got about 6 hits today, and it's not enough. Loney is doing nothing. Martin is doing nothing. Kemp finally got a hit,but he is overrated offensively. Manny is doing his job. Giants and their fans have nothing better to do than to try to beat the Dodgers. They get geeked up for every game, and then they don't take care of business when they play everyone else. When you are like 20 games under .500, and you got a comeback win last night, then you feel like ya got nothing to lose. They are playing loose, because nothing is on the table for them. Absolutely nothing to lose. The 1st 2 hits against Kuo were pretty lucky breaks. He got the pop up on the bunt attempt. Then, he got 3 ground balls, and they didn't take care of business with those groundballs(at all.) They are simply not a well managed team. The talent is there, but the fundamental plays don't get made. Blake has to make that play. Berroa, and Ozuna gotta do better with those groundballs they had. It shouldn't come down to having to make perfect fielding plays though. Broxton and Kuo both have the heat to try to throw the ball past guys, and they aren't doing it. They're scared to get hit. That finesse crap is called playing to contact, and when you do that you are gunna have to make plays on defense. They aren't challenging guys. This team's pitchers never throw inside enough, and they don't hit unless they had their a-s-s kicked in the game before the present one. It would appear that no matter what, this team is gunna simply fail to get it done. They aren't playing good fundamental baseball. Today they lost because they didn't hit well enough, and they didn't field well when they had to. Last night they lost because Broxton is a woman. Last Wednesday, they lost because Joe didn't take Lowe out until he had given up 8 runs. They could of had a great chance in that one (if he simply took out his struggling veteran pitcher.)No, he refused(he's a dumb fkr.) The game before was lost because he sent Johnson out in the 11th inning of a game 2 days after the guy started a game against the Diamondbacks. The 2 losses against the Diamondbacks were because they got 2 runs total in those 2 games. He is a very poor manager. That is simply a fact I didn't have a clue of until he got here. He sticks with starters(to show support) well after it's obvious that they don't have it. That's asanine. He should have his candyass kicked in for that crap. Today's loss was related to last night's. That woman gave it up. So,naturally they felt good about winning late in this one, and they got some huge breaks. Last night was 100% choke by Broxton, and that usually fks a team up for the next game against that same team. Broxton's choking is a cancer that keeps hurting this team. Gets everybody tight. They didn't want to lose again the same way, and they got tight fielding balls for Kuo. Fact is he got 3 groundballs, and a pop-out. They didn't do enough to support him. He also missed the ball going by him. This is quite simply a bunch of losers. That's why they get close, and start fking up instead of getting it done. They've been fking up like this for 20 years. They can't get winners. They get the talent, but they don't execute plays like they should. It's gunna take a change in attitude in the whole organization. The whole organization is too tolerant of poor fundamental play, and poor quality at bats. I keep coming back to management, because they simply aren't be managed. They do the least with the most. The Angels do the most with the least. Exactly the opposite management.
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Old 08-10-2008, 07:22 PM
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Are you saying that they have more talent than the Angels?
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Are you saying that they have more talent than the Angels?

If you can't get people to perform to their ability, then it doesn't matter how good they are. Making plays in tough situations matters a lot. Dodgers don't do it, and the Angels do. We have talented people who settle. They looked great the last 2 games against the D-BACKS. I remember PGRDN saying Manny wanted to get them to the playoffs. I said they are teasers. Anyone remember that? That was said because these people have big attitude problems. They are pretty much happy to be about a .500 group. If they get their butts beat, then they will respond with some runs, but they are a very lazy/settling bunch. After they beat the Diamindbacks in convincing manner, they lacked the fire to beat people. They simply struggle with desire(not with talent.) They've given up 25 less runs than the Angels. They are losers, and losers will find a way to lose (no matter the talent they have.) ALL I can say is if they were in the Angels system of management, then they would be atleast 10 games over .500(probably much more than that.) Torre can't get out of these lazy guys what Scioscia can. Scioscia is their friend in between games, and Torre is their friend during games(that's fundamentally wrong, because you can't make in-game decisions based on how players will feel about your decisions.) Torre has lost about 5 games this year by batting Andruw Jones in clutch situations. He wanted to show he has faith in him. That's a ****** trait Joe has.
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Old 08-10-2008, 09:01 PM
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I guess I can't argue with the management part. But the Dodgers did step up and trade for Manny. Was it enough? It seems that the whole NL West is one of the weirdest streakiest divisions I have ever seen. Just like last year, who ever gets hot in those last 2 weeks will win.
As far as the Halos go. I do think Scosia is a very good manager. I watched the Halos beat up on the Yanks the last 2 weekends. But the Halo's just have so much talent. There is not one guy in that lineup that can't hurt you. And there pitching is excellent too. They brought in some guy today who I have never even heard of. They are already grooming him to take over when K-Rod departs next year. He had great stuff. They just seem to do everything right.

About the Dodgers, just because you have some talented guys doesn't make you a good team. If you think that they are lazy and happy to be 500 then you definatly have the wrong manager too (which you have been saying all along). Sounds like they need a guy who will light a fire under there asses and not be afraid to step on some toes. But todays game is a game that a good team finds a way to hold on and win. Just a brutal loss.
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ouch scuds 2 tough losses to a gaint team that is pathectic
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Old 08-10-2008, 10:15 PM
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Sounds like they need a guy who will light a fire under there asses and not be afraid to step on some toes. But todays game is a game that a good team finds a way to hold on and win. Just a brutal loss.

It's not shocking to Dodger fans. Honestly, I thought it was 60/40 in favor of them getting a couple runs in the bottom 9th. I agree that (from the outside looking in) it should be shocking. It's not unusual for them to lay down late against Frisco. Just why (exactly) did you think a team with this talent is always trying to get back to .500? IF YOU ARE GUNNA TRY TO SHUT A TEAM DOWN IN THE BOTTOM 9TH, THEN IT IS PROBABLY GUNNA TAKE A COUPLE STRIKE OUTS, OR YOU SHOULD AT MINIMUM BE TRYING TO STRIKE PEOPLE OUT. Neither pitcher the last 2 games seemed to understand this. They don't seem to get it. A closer has to be a brutal bullfighter. You can't be looking to pitch to contact. Your goal should be for all 3 batters you face to have trouble making contact. If you allow them contact then it's gunna be luck of the draw. That's what Kuo got. 2 cheap hits, a popped up bunt,and 3 groundballs. Should of made defensive plays,but you need to not rely on that. You need to strike people out, and they are so poorly coached by Honeybutt that they have no clue how to really close games the right way. The majority of Saito's saves ended with Martin giving him back the fkn ball. Get a fkn clue Honeybutt. Got too many dumb fkrs in charge of these people. They have the talent on the pitching side for sure. They aren't properly directed at all. They are mirroring this honeycunt. He ever throw over 80? FKN FINESS TRASHCUNT MEDIOCRE PITCHER, and they are being led by him. They need to come into the 9th inning knowing the management wants them to throw it by people. They don't. They act like they never get any direction at all. It's like a single-parented kid. They're lacking in the things that only men can instill in them. Torre, and Honeycunt are some very tame examples of men. A tea drinka, and a mediocre finesse trash pitcher.
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