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Old 07-30-2008, 10:15 PM
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By the way Chucky, for the record, I don't think you are stupid.

I think you are full of yourself and overvalue your own opinion.

The attitude that people who work in the industry have a better and smarter opinion than those that don't is old and tiring.


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I am relieved that I didnt make the stupid list. I overvalue my own opinion is an interesting comment. I didnt know it was possible to overvalue ones own opinion. Maybe just those that are full of themselves?

I only pointed out that you are getting your info from the racing media which is not an infallible source and is easily manipulated. My opinion may not be better or smarter than someone who doesnt work in the industry but it surely is far more informed. I try to express the reality of the business and in some ways offer a glimpse inside. You want to call trainers liars and dishonest and my attitude is tiring?

At least admit you have some kind of agenda, especially if you dont bet...
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Old 07-30-2008, 10:38 PM
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I am relieved that I didnt make the stupid list. I overvalue my own opinion is an interesting comment. I didnt know it was possible to overvalue ones own opinion. Maybe just those that are full of themselves?

I only pointed out that you are getting your info from the racing media which is not an infallible source and is easily manipulated. My opinion may not be better or smarter than someone who doesnt work in the industry but it surely is far more informed. I try to express the reality of the business and in some ways offer a glimpse inside. You want to call trainers liars and dishonest and my attitude is tiring?

At least admit you have some kind of agenda, especially if you dont bet...
Chuck, I think you addressed a very important point, one that often needs to be clarified. In my opinion, it's certainly not a case of a person who works within the industry having a "better" or "smarter" opinion than another person who does not work within the industry. It's far to easy at this point to get hung up on semantics. However, it is very understandable that the person who works in the industry (yes, of course, depending on capacity, experience, role, scope, etc.) -- that opinion would be better informed, more qualified, based upon practical application, everyday experience, and coming from a place of more tangible substance.

There is an entire discussion, several, that take place in and around this, but I do think that some people can embrace this mindset and others will not; even go beyond not embracing and fighting it. That's OK.

Not to get to philosophical, but the "universe of knowledge" concept speaks to aspects . . .

1) You know what you know (in my case, I know that I know how to drive a car).

2) You know what you don't know (I know I don't know how to perform brain surgery).

3) You don't know what you don't know (figure that out on your own, LOL).

And some speak about a fourth --

4) The knowledge that you don't know, but you think you do (another that people should figure out on their own, LOL) -- and this aspect can be dangerous.

Anyway, excellent points Chuck.

Eric
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:41 AM
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i almost realized there was a lot i didn't know but just hung myself out of boredom halfway through reading the post instead.

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