ESPN's Pat Forde

[Mortimer]

Why isn't one of the news correspondents here announcing the Sabathia trade?



We need confirmation on all those national news media reports made earlier today.

[Cannon Shell]

I am still in shock over the news that the French are better than us in swimming...

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I am still in shock over the news that the French are better than us in swimming...

Overall they aren't...

The 24-year old Frenchman clocked 47.60 seconds in the 100 semi-finals to beat the 47.84 mark Van den Hoogenband set in the semi-finals of the Sydney Olympics in September, 2000, on the way to the first of his two Olympic 100 freestyle titles.

[Storm Cadet]

Now which one is on steroids again?

http://www.nbcolympics.com/blogs/blo...believing+dara

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I am still in shock over the news that the French are better than us in swimming...

Lots of practice swimming in retreat?? English Channel to the North and Med. Sea to the South.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GPK

Lots of practice swimming in retreat?? English Channel to the North and Med. Sea to the South.

I was hoping that he was talking about the special olympics

[TheSpyder]

I know I'm nothing swimming without nose plugs but the weight of them really keeps me from setting any records.

Speaking of which, how about those swim suit wars. I hear they are the real reason for all these records and even Chuck could set records in them:

http://olympics.blogs.nytimes.com/20...swimsuit-wars/

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...t.3c0530d.html

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

I know I'm nothing swimming without nose plugs but the weight of them really keeps me from setting any records.

Speaking of which, how about those swim suit wars. I hear they are the real reason for all these records and even Chuck could set records in them:

http://olympics.blogs.nytimes.com/20...swimsuit-wars/

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...t.3c0530d.html

I float

[horseofcourse]

I am sorry Coach Pants. I did not know you knew an Olympian who knows Dara Torres, and if that is the case it is wrong for me to suspect her of anything. It was wrong of me. But in the world of flawed human beings you often see people commenting on things they know nothing about as I did. I am one of the many flawed people who live. AT some level I bet you are flawed as well and have made errors.

You are correct I know nothing about swimming at the world class level. I did not know you were at that level and personally knew so many at that level. I think I follow the sport more closely than most who post here. I hope you would consider that a legitimate statment. Perhaps not. I don't appreciate you making fun of my family and daughter. (yes, I know you didn't directly, but by calling me idaho potato and podunk USS meets is in fact making fun of my family.) She works really hard and will never be world class but I am proud of her nonetheless at those podunk USS meets. You are correct in that those podunk meets do not make me an expert at all on swimming....I was simply trying to make the point that I follow swimming perhaps more closely than others on this board. WE actually get some swimming magazine with articles on all these world class swimmers and I read a large chunk of it always. I did in fact know Torres has been a world class swimmer and one of the best for years and years. That is why I find it odd she is faster at 41 than she was in her 20s and 30s. I think that is fairly unbelivable. I saw Jordan on the Wizards and Jordan on the Bulls. Nicklaus won 1 major after 41 and 17 before 41. It is not common for the best of the best to be at their best at her age. I understand now that I should not think that and it is way wrong. (yes I know your response will be that it is ridiculous to compare golf, basketball, track, ping pong, air hockey to swimming...I just need to further illustrate how dumb I really am by doing that.)

I think I never said that I was an expert on all things swimming...simply that perhaps I know more than you think I do. That does not mean I am an expert or mean that I was posing as an expert. I even stated I didn't know as much as you. I was dead serious when I said that. By attending podunk meets for years and years I think makes me more involved than many on this board and we actually watch swimming on TV when it rarely comes on is all. I never once pased off that I was an advanced expert on swimming...that was you who said I was doing it. I did not. It was simply nothing.

I simply felt that the Forde article was legitimate based on the world today. I think it is legitimate to question whether a 41 year old who is faster than she's ever been in her life is a completely natural event. You obviously have personal involvement with her and know her routine intimately based on your connections. Those that don't simply will wrongly question if she is legitimate as Forde did and I defended. I guess the record shows that you are obviously very close to world class swimmers who are close to Torres, and if I knew that I would have shown more restraint.

I am thoroughly embarrased to have posted on this thread. I am a know nothing something or other that you stated in your posts and you completely wiped me out here. I can readily admit that.

Thanks for putting me in my place properly. I honestly am not a vile and disgusting person however. I just make mistakes like most others of my species. I appreciate you educating me however...seriously. Ridiculous people as myself do deserve ridicule. That is what makes us ridiculous I guess.

(and I remain a dullard as this post verifies even further!!)...and why I limit my posts...if I had the number of posts you had everyone would have been bored off the board by now...and why I severely limit my posting on the smart threads as I know less about racing than other sports so thank me for limiting myself!!