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Old 07-06-2008, 05:05 PM
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I think the guys on TVG said it best. She was the best horse in the race, why punish the owners, trainer, and bettors. Let the stewards deal with the jockey later on.

This is how it should be. Grant it, with the qestionable calls in the last week or so, its is hard to believe the stewards actually used logic.
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Old 07-06-2008, 05:11 PM
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I think the guys on TVG said it best. She was the best horse in the race, why punish the owners, trainer, and bettors. Let the stewards deal with the jockey later on.

This is how it should be. Grant it, with the qestionable calls in the last week or so, its is hard to believe the stewards actually used logic.

so it's ok to punish the owners, trainer and bettors of Spa Princess? She was clearly knocked over 2-3 paths.
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Old 07-06-2008, 05:17 PM
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so it's ok to punish the owners, trainer and bettors of Spa Princess? She was clearly knocked over 2-3 paths.
if she's not the best horse then they're not really being punished. . .
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Old 07-06-2008, 05:22 PM
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if she's not the best horse then they're not really being punished. . .

Was she given a fair chance to prove she was the best horse?

Again...Im just asking, as I had nothing invested in the race.
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Old 07-06-2008, 05:28 PM
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Either did I. . . but just in general, I'd like the stewards to take a hands-off approach.
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Old 07-06-2008, 05:29 PM
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Like to hear from some others on this too.
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Old 07-06-2008, 05:44 PM
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I had a small exacta 1-6 and I hated to see the 6 bounce off the 1. but I knew the stewards weren't going to touch it. They seem to be fairly consistant. The 9 and 10 weren't affected, the 1 had every chance to get it back together, 6 was the best horse, what could they do?
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Old 07-06-2008, 05:33 PM
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I could argue that this decision, standing alone, was fair.

Viewed in the context of the DQs of Proud Spell and Admiral Bird in the last week, this decision was laughable. I'm not sure that Spa Princess had the opportunity to prove that she was the third best horse in the race (as the bumping certainly could have cost her the length she was beaten for third), and the difference for the owners between third and fourth is $2,300.
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Old 07-06-2008, 05:40 PM
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I could argue that this decision, standing alone, was fair.

Viewed in the context of the DQs of Proud Spell and Admiral Bird in the last week, this decision was laughable. I'm not sure that Spa Princess had the opportunity to prove that she was the third best horse in the race (as the bumping certainly could have cost her the length she was beaten for third), and the difference for the owners between third and fourth is $2,300.
Does this mean the horse is going to be denied the good hay? Sorry Thebby I couldn't help myself
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Old 07-07-2008, 04:17 AM
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I think the guys on TVG said it best. She was the best horse in the race, why punish the owners, trainer, and bettors. Let the stewards deal with the jockey later on.

This is how it should be. Grant it, with the qestionable calls in the last week or so, its is hard to believe the stewards actually used logic.
Kind of an irresponsible statement by the TVG (I didn't hear them myself, so I will take your word on this), I don't think we are asking the Stews to punish anybody. Just get it right.

As GPK said, there were other owners, trainers and horses being bet on in the race.

Just get it right and be consistent. That's not too much to ask is it?
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Old 07-07-2008, 07:49 AM
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I thought it was a decent no call because it didn't impact the outcome - however, Margah basically made his own room and should get fined for that ride.

Margah rode like he was on bumper cars at an amusement park instead of race horses at Belmont in three different turf races yesterday. His ride on the 4th place finisher in the 5th race was textbook careless riding.
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Old 07-07-2008, 08:08 AM
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The stewards are taking the "it didn't impact the outcome" piece of their duty too far. There are far too many instance of this excuse being used. And the stewards can't state with certainty whether outcomes would be unaffected in a lot of these no-calls.

Take a look at Bemont's 7th on 5/24. In the stewards opinion, the outcome was not impacted. The 3rd, 4th,5th and 6th finishers were all close together and it is impossible to say the outcome was not impacted.

I suppose until a rider gets slammed head first into the rail while having a chance to win, my take on this is going to be pretty moot.
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Old 07-07-2008, 08:56 AM
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Terrible ride by Maragh. Absolutely TERRIBLE!!! If he waits a second or so, the hole OPENS WIDE for him.

I think this horse needs to come down because not only does Maragh come out BUMPING the other horse, which would've been a good NO CALL, he also lays into her immediately after that, effectively fouling her TWICE.

Nice to see an interest in races (albeit a limited one). If this continues, perhaps the stewards will start feeling some of the pressure and get a bit more consistent.
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