Discreet Treasure

The man likes to be right.

He has been handicapping and betting for years,
and is obviously very good at it. So I guess it does no harm in
righting a very obvious wrong.

I dont think this complete lack of understanding in what we
know about heredity now, has created a problem thus far.

A real renaissance man.

Its hard to learn "new" ideas when one gets older, I have experienced
this. Or maybe one of my favorite quotes might apply here:
Do not attempt to reason a man out of something he did not reason himself into.

An interesting side note is there are 3 big reasons why male offspring
should be more like their mothers(dams) genetically than the fathers (sires).
No links required. Just science as we know it now, not caveman stuff.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by pgardn

The man likes to be right.

The intent of his post, beyond all the nitpicking by the Texas Instrument-packing Student t-test freaks and Burkenstock wearing Corso/Sagan wannabes, was that this horse, Discreet Treasure, was probably better suited to the turf, and an opportunistic bet-against at very short-odds were he to reappear on a fast main track.

There is a very good chance that he will prove right in this respect.

He has been handicapping and betting for years,
and is obviously very good at it. So I guess it does no harm in
righting a very obvious wrong.

The italicized I assume was the intent of your post...sorry you failed.

Alas, I can't quite come up with a fitting description of your behavior on this Summer's Eve (but I bet you could find it in the feminine needs section of your local Walgreen's)...

I dont think this complete lack of understanding in what we
know about heredity now, has created a problem thus far.

What "we" know? You harvesting fetal stem cells in your spare time? Or do you just, as your screenname suggests, have a massive pea garden?

The irony of this posturing as a latter day Gregor Mendel is that the monk himself died of a kidney infection, making your douche bag-like performance all the more appropriate...

A real renaissance man.

You're just bitter no one here is calling you a Homo Universalis...

I'll grant you the first half of that phrase...not that there's anything wrong with that...

Its hard to learn "new" ideas when one gets older, I have experienced
this. Or maybe one of my favorite quotes might apply here:
Do not attempt to reason a man out of something he did not reason himself into.

Appropriate quote for sure. The same guy suggested people dine on babies, which in a way was the crude origin of stem cell research...

An interesting side note is there are 3 big reasons why male offspring
should be more like their mothers(dams) genetically than the fathers (sires).
No links required. Just science as we know it now, not caveman stuff.

Yeah, its just too bad that (a) handicapping and horse racing itself can never be distilled to an exact science and (b) we aren't strictly talking about genotype here, more so phenotype. Anyone want to revisit the 2004 North American 3yo turf crop to see who the prevailing dominant sire was at the time?

Never mind that concepts such as gene interaction, gene-linkage, and sex-linkage were completely ignored by all the righteous "correctors", which is what essentially was being arrived at (however "incorrect" a path it may have been) with the suggestion that coat color was linked to turf prowess (or stallion performance traits in general).

Oh, and since we are back to the concept of the feminine hy-"gene", how often should we practice this, you know, to avoid that pesky nephritis...

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

The intent of his post, beyond all the nitpicking by the Texas Instrument-packing Student t-test freaks and Burkenstock wearing Corso/Sagan wannabes, was that this horse, Discreet Treasure, was probably better suited to the turf, and an opportunistic bet-against at very short-odds were he to reappear on a fast main track.

There is a very good chance that he will prove right in this respect.



The italicized I assume was the intent of your post...sorry you failed.

Alas, I can't quite come up with a fitting description of your behavior on this Summer's Eve (but I bet you could find it in the feminine needs section of your local Walgreen's)...



What "we" know? You harvesting fetal stem cells in your spare time? Or do you just, as your screenname suggests, have a massive pea garden?

The irony of this posturing as a latter day Gregor Mendel is that the monk himself died of a kidney infection, making your douche bag-like performance all the more appropriate...



You're just bitter no one here is calling you a Homo Universalis...

I'll grant you the first half of that phrase...not that there's anything wrong with that...



Appropriate quote for sure. The same guy suggested people dine on babies, which in a way was the crude origin of stem cell research...



Yeah, its just too bad that (a) handicapping and horse racing itself can never be distilled to an exact science and (b) we aren't strictly talking about genotype here, more so phenotype. Anyone want to revisit the 2004 North American 3yo turf crop to see who the prevailing dominant sire was at the time?

Never mind that concepts such as gene interaction, gene-linkage, and sex-linkage were completely ignored by all the righteous "correctors", which is what essentially was being arrived at (however "incorrect" a path it may have been) with the suggestion that coat color was linked to turf prowess (or stallion performance traits in general).
Oh, and since we are back to the concept of the feminine hy-"gene", how often should we practice this, you know, to avoid that pesky nephritis...

Glad we stayed on subject.
And I am glad you saw if fit to stay civil.
ANd its nice on this summer evening you can come to the rescue.

So go ahead explain the bolded to me. You know its a mess but you brought it up. So lets get your explaination. Time to squirm.

And since it is a mess, tell me why I made the statement that it is more likely offspring, especially male, tend to be more like their mothers in general? Which actually was the point of my post refuting what he said.

Man I read this again.

Do you help him to the potty?
God Lord...

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Man I read this again.

Do you help him to the potty?
God Lord...

Your mother would be proud of you for this post.

But your dad probably doesn't give a sh!t (no pun intended), cuz as we all know now, he isn't as responsible for as many of your genes (Mervyn's High Sierra brand?) as dear old mom is...

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Your mother would be proud of you for this post.

But your dad probably doesn't give a sh!t (no pun intended), cuz as we all know now, he isn't as responsible for as many of your genes (Mervyn's High Sierra brand?) as dear old mom is...

My mother?
My mother is long gone. How did you figure she would be proud?
Dead people usually dont give a sh it as far as I know, same for dad.

So it is time to squirm, or hopefully not. Please answer the questions last post. I need to know.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by pgardn

My mother?
My mother is long gone. How did you figure she would be proud?
Dead people usually dont give a sh it as far as I know, same for dad.

So it is time to squirm, or hopefully not. Please answer the questions last post. I need to know.

What happened to the posts affecting a Swift-like meter?

Those were easier to ignore.

As far your question about the potty, that would be "no", but if you want a brief course I'll direct you to the SNL parody "Oops I Crapped My Pants"...let's say this pitcher of ice tea is a gallon of your own feces...

If you meant the mitochondrial DNA, well I'm certainly no expert, but seeing how mitochondria are responsible for energy production via the utilization of oxygen, I'd imagine some genius in a lab coat with a few hundred lab rats to "euthanize" on the edge of a countertop later that afternoon came up with the brilliant idea that "good" mitochondria (passed on by superior dams) would be "gooder" at using oxygen and making horsey go faster to win...

Stop, Dave...I'm afraid Dave...

Daisy, Daisy...Give Me Your Answer Do...

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Glad we stayed on subject.
And I am glad you saw if fit to stay civil.
ANd its nice on this summer evening you can come to the rescue.

So go ahead explain the bolded to me. You know its a mess but you brought it up. So lets get your explaination. Time to squirm.

And since it is a mess, tell me why I made the statement that it is more likely offspring, especially male, tend to be more like their mothers in general? Which actually was the point of my post refuting what he said.

Whoa, there, Watson or Crick! Thanks for majoring in genetics so that you could come on here and give everyone the high hat.

Of course, its more likely you just read something from Ann Bowling's book on equine genetics or "Racehorse Breeding Theories" or "The X Factor" and think you know everything about the transference of mitochondrial DNA or the amount of genetic material on a Y-chromosome (if you happen to be a woman--is this a molecular form of "penis envy"?) versus the X-chromosome.

Independently assort this drivel as you see fit, between douching that is...

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Whoa, there, Watson or Crick! Thanks for majoring in genetics so that you could come on here and give everyone the high hat.

Of course, its more likely you just read something from Ann Bowling's book on equine genetics or "Racehorse Breeding Theories" or "The X Factor" and think you know everything about the transference of mitochondrial DNA or the amount of genetic material on a Y-chromosome (if you happen to be a woman--is this a molecular form of "penis envy"?) versus the X-chromosome.

Independently assort this drivel as you see fit, between douching that is...

What is frkkn gene is in the mitochondrial DNA that might be incredibly critical?
And I have not read an ounce of that work. Was this done before the thoroughbred genome was mapped?
And you apparently do know how wrong the statement most was... like your mate has never jumped on
anyone for being wrong. And good guess but I did not major in genetics.

You can stop with the childish sex references.