Two Bozos in one week! Helms dead..

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Kasept

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080704/..._us/obit_helms

Jesse Helms, a vile, hate-filled, obstructionist faux 'patriot' is dead. Sickeningly being mentioned with Adams and Jefferson because he died on the 4th. Adams and Jefferson would spit in his face for the disgusting manner in which Helms conducted himself in his years of 'public service'. An embarrassment to North Carolina for 40 years.

Is he as bad as those terrible, evil animal right's activists?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Here is an article about Helms. He was actually a Democrat until he switched to the Republican party in 1970.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/politics/story/1755723/

It's not mentioned in this article, but Helms and his wife adopted a 9 year old boy with cerebral palsy. He sounds like a terrible, evil man to me. He may be as evil as animal right's activists.

If someone has a different opinion than you do, it's a good idea to label the person as evil.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Here is an article about Helms. He was actually a Democrat until he switched to the Republican party in 1970.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/politics/story/1755723/

It's not mentioned in this article, but Helms and his wife adopted a 9 year old boy with cerebral palsy. He sounds like a terrible, evil man to me. He may be as evil as animal right's activists.

If someone has a different opinion than you do, it's a good idea to label the person as evil.

you do know everyone can still read the original post, right?

i didn't see evil.

but i do think he missed racist, backward looking redneck in his description.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

you do know everyone can still read the original post, right?

i didn't see evil.

but i do think he missed racist, backward looking redneck in his description.

You may be right. He only called him "vile and hate-filled". Just because he thinks that Helms is "vile and hate-filled", it doesn't mean that he thinks he's "evil".

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

You may be right. He only called him "vile and hate-filled". Just because he thinks that Helms is "vile and hate-filled", it doesn't mean that he thinks he's "evil".

Yer gittin' there.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

You may be right. He only called him "vile and hate-filled". Just because he thinks that Helms is "vile and hate-filled", it doesn't mean that he thinks he's "evil".

Helms was not a politician. He stated his views rather clearly.
And he got elected over and over. Personally I would say he
was one of the least patriotic modern day Senators ever, pure intolerance.
But at least he let you know he believed in a very diff. sort of America.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Helms was not a politician. He stated his views rather clearly.
And he got elected over and over. Personally I would say he
was one of the least patriotic modern day Senators ever, pure intolerance.
But at least he let you know he believed in a very diff. sort of America.

Why would you say he was not patriotic? By the way, I am not an expert on Helms. I don't know that much about him. I can't say for sure that he wasn't a racist.

But in general, I am always hearing people accuse conservatives of being racists and most of the time the accusations are completely unfounded. Just because a person is against affirmative action, etc., that doesn't make them a racist. In fact, you could argue the exact opposite.

If Helms was such a racist, why did he have a black press secretary?

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Why would you say he was not patriotic? By the way, I am not an expert on Helms. I don't know that much about him. I can't say for sure that he wasn't a racist.

But in general, I am always hearing people accuse conservatives of being racists and most of the time the accusations are completely unfounded. Just because a person is against affirmative action, etc., that doesn't make them a racist. In fact, you could argue the exact opposite.

If Helms was such a racist, why did he have a black press secretary?

Well, to cover the Black press...of course.








( it's him----right?)

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

1. Why would you say he was not patriotic? By the way, I am not an expert on Helms. I don't know that much about him. I can't say for sure that he wasn't a racist.

But in general, I am always hearing people accuse conservatives of being racists and most of the time the accusations are completely unfounded. Just because a person is against affirmative action, etc., that doesn't make them a racist. In fact, you could argue the exact opposite.

If Helms was such a racist, why did he have a black press secretary?

1. Because his voting record and stances indicate intolerance towards democracy and what the United States means in imo.

And he said exactly what he felt. He did not attempt
to persuade or dissuade. He was asked numerous times on the record
after making some very intolerant statements if he wished to retract.
He wanted no retractions.

He was a senator for a very long time and the record is there for
anyone to see. I agree that racist is very over used. I have not used it.
I would say he shows a great deal of intolerance towards segments of
this Nation in a way exactly opposite of what I believe this country's
central tenets are.

And I dont think the conservative philosophy automatically implies racism
just like I dont think a liberal philosophy implies a mindless tendency to
spend money to relieve some false sense of guilt.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Why would you say he was not patriotic? By the way, I am not an expert on Helms. I don't know that much about him. I can't say for sure that he wasn't a racist.

But in general, I am always hearing people accuse conservatives of being racists and most of the time the accusations are completely unfounded. Just because a person is against affirmative action, etc., that doesn't make them a racist. In fact, you could argue the exact opposite.

If Helms was such a racist, why did he have a black press secretary?

become an expert:

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1871

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Why would you say he was not patriotic? By the way, I am not an expert on Helms. I don't know that much about him. I can't say for sure that he wasn't a racist.

But in general, I am always hearing people accuse conservatives of being racists and most of the time the accusations are completely unfounded. Just because a person is against affirmative action, etc., that doesn't make them a racist. In fact, you could argue the exact opposite.

If Helms was such a racist, why did he have a black press secretary?

a caller to larry king when helms was a guest thanked helms for 'keeping down the _______' to which helms replied 'thanks.'

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You don't know much about him, obviously, yet you have such a strong opinion huh? Did KYRIM steal your log in?

I thought Andrew did.


But you could be right.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You don't know much about him, obviously, yet you have such a strong opinion huh? Did KYRIM steal your log in?

Do you know any more about him than I do? I've read plenty of the articles about him. I'm not an expert on him.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

You may be right. He only called him "vile and hate-filled". Just because he thinks that Helms is "vile and hate-filled", it doesn't mean that he thinks he's "evil".

i can't say i look back on the lives of either george wallace or strom thurmond and think they added to society.

but george wallace at least recognized the harm he did and spent the very latest part of his life trying to amend. and strom thurmond had the grace to mask his racism later in life.

jesse helms was (hopefully) the last of the unrepentant white racist national politicians.

defend him all you want. i'm glad his kind of politics in on the wane.

[Mortimer]

I don't think we can go any further with this.






Anyone else?

[geeker2]

You know it's not to late for other politicans to still die on the 4th...

Anyone?

Originally Posted by Mortimer

I don't think we can go any further with this.






Anyone else?

I have no doubt in your ability
to go much further Mortunsis.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Here is an article about Helms. He was actually a Democrat until he switched to the Republican party in 1970.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/politics/story/1755723/

It's not mentioned in this article, but Helms and his wife adopted a 9 year old boy with cerebral palsy. He sounds like a terrible, evil man to me. He may be as evil as animal right's activists.

If someone has a different opinion than you do, it's a good idea to label the person as evil.

Oddly enough..."evil" comes from the Hungarian word----evaultosh.




Yes.






It meant...I would like to pet her.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

If someone has a different opinion than you do, it's a good idea to label the person as evil.

Don't recall you ever saying you lived in NC. I, however, did.. Like most of the current neo con phonies, Helms masterfully traded on fear to stay elected, a prequel to the playbook for the current scum in office. He eagerly blocked progressive measures in the Senate for years. Evil? Yeah, I'm funny that way. I tend to find those that go out of their way to inhibit the quality of life of others, evil.

[TheSpyder]

Spyder reporting from the Carolinas';

When I came down here from Cleveland in 1974 I was shocked to realize that the Civil War had not ended.

Visiting my Southern girlfriends parents in Smithfield, NC I was welcomed by a sign coming into town..."The KKK Welcomes You to Smithfield"
.......oh boy!

Many people here hated blacks and Northerners. It was obvious.

Helms was from that mold and used that wedge to motivate these people for years and years. It was quite sad to see such limited vision by actual human beings. I found it quite refreshing when a friend was asked why he was here by some of these people to reply...."I just wanted to come down here to see what we won!"

But times have changed. It seems most people are from Ohio, PA, and NY.

Still in the backwoods, and there are plenty, these attitudes still exist.