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Old 07-01-2008, 10:30 PM
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Gomez ride? Oh God do i hear more about Gomez rides on this site then anywhere else. If you only read this site you would think he was a bug rider on some dirt track in the sticks as opposed to being the top rider in the country.

The horse has never won a stake. He has only won a maiden and an allowance. So...my opinion of him is that he is an allowance horse.

Is there something i am missing?
I like Gomez as much as anyone, if i had a horse in a $1,000,000 race Id probaly give Ron Anderson a call before anyone.
However, Just go watch the replay.
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:32 PM
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I like Gomez as much as anyone, if i had a horse in a $1,000,000 race Id probaly give Ron Anderson a call before anyone.
However, Just go watch the replay.
Fair enough. But the second place finisher in that race was a turf horse. The third place finisher was a rat. Grasshopper finishing second really wouldnt have made much of a difference to me. Someone had to finish second. It was curlin and a bunch of nags.
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:33 PM
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Fair enough. But the second place finisher in that race was a turf horse. The third place finisher was a rat. Grasshopper finishing second really wouldnt have made much of a difference to me. Someone had to finish second. It was curlin and a bunch of nags.
i think your missing the point, is there any shame with second place in 1 million grade 1 races ?
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:40 PM
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i think your missing the point, is there any shame with second place in 1 million grade 1 races ?
No shame at all. But it doesnt mean anything these days really. I think you are missing the point.

And what is that point? These fields for these "grade 1" races are shallow. There isnt much quality in most of them especially the restricted three year old races in august.

What was in that Travers? Sightseeing (proven nag) and Cp west (proven nag) and grasshopper along with Street Sense. What did Grasshopper beat? Nothing. What did he beat before? Nothing. What has he beaten since? Nothing.

So you inferred that there was form reversal between three and four. I dont see it as i have said. He still hasnt won a stake in either year. He still hasnt beaten a decent horse in either year.

Where is the form reversal? You based his quality on a "grade 1" race devoid of quality outside of the winner and an allowance race devoid of quality altogether.

What am i missing?
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:42 PM
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No shame at all. But it doesnt mean anything these days really. I think you are missing the point.

And what is that point? These fields for these "grade 1" races are shallow. There isnt much quality in most of them especially the restricted three year old races in august.

What was in that Travers? Sightseeing (proven nag) and Cp west (proven nag) and grasshopper along with Street Sense. What did Grasshopper beat? Nothing. What did he beat before? Nothing. What has he beaten since? Nothing.

So you inferred that there was form reversal between three and four. I dont see it as i have said. He still hasnt won a stake in either year. He still hasnt beaten a decent horse in either year.

Where is the form reversal? You based his quality on a "grade 1" race devoid of quality outside of the winner and an allowance race devoid of quality altogether.

What am i missing?
everything in racing seems to be shallow... every division appears weak
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:48 PM
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everything in racing seems to be shallow... every division appears weak
True and if grasshopper was anything but a rat nag, he would have won a stake by now. He would have won one last year. The fact is, he is still eligible for nx2.
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