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Old 06-30-2008, 09:22 AM
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He's had about 350 so far this year. Even if we assume that he had 700 last year, it seems to me that 5% of his starters on such short rest is a pretty high number. In NY, the only other trainers that I can think of running a significant number of horses back on such short rest are Contessa and Leo O'Brien.
If you do something 5% of the time it is deemed infrequent..So are you saying 95% of the time his horses race on what we deem appropiate rest? I would argue 5% of the time is never something you can label as abusive.
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:25 AM
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Freddy, 5% is cause for concern. We're talking 7 or less days for a start, right ? I don't think that is ever appropriate as in 0%.
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:54 AM
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Freddy, 5% is cause for concern. We're talking 7 or less days for a start, right ? I don't think that is ever appropriate as in 0%.
Why they are race horses? When they come out of a race in great shape and act well the next few days it isn't ridiculous to race them back quickly, just not all the time.. If a horse makes 20 starts in a year and 1 of the 20 is on 4 days rest(5%) its hardly a offensive crime against an animal IMO
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Old 06-30-2008, 10:00 AM
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Why they are race horses? When they come out of a race in great shape and act well the next few days it isn't ridiculous to race them back quickly, just not all the time.. If a horse makes 20 starts in a year and 1 of the 20 is on 4 days rest(5%) its hardly a offensive crime against an animal IMO
Please find me a horse that makes 20 starts a year that isn't racing at a place like Finger Lakes.
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Old 06-30-2008, 10:38 AM
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Please find me a horse that makes 20 starts a year that isn't racing at a place like Finger Lakes.
Just looked through the PP's from Belmont for wedsnesday and thursday.. Only Executive Search but of the 18 races most of the races feature horses that couldn't have possibly started 20 times nmaidens etc.
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Old 06-30-2008, 10:41 AM
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Just looked through the PP's from Belmont for wedsnesday and thursday.. Only Executive Search but of the 18 races most of the races feature horses that couldn't have possibly started 20 times nmaidens etc.
I think you missed my drift. I wasn't asking you to necessarily find me an example. I was saying that I'd like to have one in our stable.
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I think you missed my drift. I wasn't asking you to necessarily find me an example. I was saying that I'd like to have one in our stable.
It's pretty crazy when you realize that not only did Colin retire undefeated, but the schedule he was given, and the weight he carried was downright amazing. (he raced multiple times off 3 or 4 days rest)
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:26 AM
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If you do something 5% of the time it is deemed infrequent..So are you saying 95% of the time his horses race on what we deem appropiate rest? I would argue 5% of the time is never something you can label as abusive.
I didn't say it was abusive, but even if it's only 5%, I think it is still far above the norm.
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