Gotta love this broad

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Gimme a break.....when the whole thing went down with Allday vs Dutrow she came out swinging for Dutrow. Now she is defending Assmussen. She has a history of defending guys who have been caught over and over again. She employs guys like Lake, Contessa, Assmussen. Guys who are cheats. If she wants to "save" the sport , she should pull her horses from these guys and give em to real horsemen who dont have histories of positives. She is a lawyer...she is just spinning things her way.

You are nuts if you think people like her are good for the game.

i agree. she comes out with the 'this testing isn't done fairly' defense--but it's only affecting the many-times over cheaters that she is defending. go figure. but i'm sure it's just their bad luck.

and no, it doesn't 'make sense' that asmussen would risk something like that--but jails are FULL of people who you could say the same about--not a very good defense.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i agree. she comes out with the 'this testing isn't done fairly' defense--but it's only affecting the many-times over cheaters that she is defending. go figure. but i'm sure it's just their bad luck.

and no, it doesn't 'make sense' that asmussen would risk something like that--but jails are FULL of people who you could say the same about--not a very good defense.

I think one of the main reasons that some of these cheating trainers are doing so well is because they use nerve blocks to take away the pain. Biancone was doing it with snake venom. These other guys are using stuff like mepivicaine and lidocaine.

The question is how they are normally able to give mepivicaine without it showing up. They must have some method of masking it that works 99% of the time. Asmussen, Pletcher, Mullins, etc. have all been caught using it. I highly doubt that the times they got caught were the only times that they used it. I think the times they got caught were just the tip of the iceberg.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I think one of the main reasons that some of these cheating trainers are doing so well is because they use nerve blocks to take away the pain. Biancone was doing it with snake venom. These other guys are using stuff like mepivicaine and lidocaine.

The question is how they are normally able to give mepivicaine without it showing up. They must have some method of masking it that works 99% of the time. Asmussen, Pletcher, Mullins, etc. have all been caught using it. I highly doubt that the times they got caught were the only times that they used it. I think the times they got caught were just the tip of the iceberg.

Let's look at Pletcher today. Runs two horses today that ran lights out great in Kentucky (where testing seems a bit lax compared to other places). They then both run horrendously /dead last today in NY. Coincidence? I think not. While Pletcher may be a "good guy" and pleasant on tv, it's beyond obvious since last summer at Saratoga that he has completely changed his ways in NY.

[hockey2315]

Pletcher's NY domination is definitely over. . . not sure why. . .

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Pletcher's NY domination is definitely over. . . not sure why. . .

I think Stonegassard may have hit the nail on the head as to the reason why.

But you never know. It could just be a short-term, random fluctuation. Time will tell.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Let's look at Pletcher today. Runs two horses today that ran lights out great in Kentucky (where testing seems a bit lax compared to other places). They then both run horrendously /dead last today in NY. Coincidence? I think not. While Pletcher may be a "good guy" and pleasant on tv, it's beyond obvious since last summer at Saratoga that he has completely changed his ways in NY.

I was actually thinking the same thing.