Direct evidence of Iranian involvement???

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

BB, I invite you to look at some of the photos:

http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=2444

http://www.guardian.co.uk/gall/0,8542,1211872,00.html

In particular, take note of the ones of soldiers posing next to corpses of Iraqis who arrived at the prison in good health. I don't know what kind of "porno photos" you look at, but the ones I've seen sure don't include corpses, bloodstained cells and blindfolded prisoners being terrfied by dogs. But hey, if that's what gets your rocks off, BB...

Those photos are exactly what I meant by "porno" ... they are photos of some naked bodies taken by twisted minds who got their jollies from kinky garbage like that ... and who later found themselves in jail after being prosecuted by the American justice system ... but ...

... I repeat ... there was no one being "tortured" ... no one was injured ... and no one was decapitated.

I had thought that the recent history of leftist "jounalists" being repeatedly duped by faked stories and faked photos proffered by terrorist propagandists ... would have inured even the most gullible from swallowing whole-hog such garbage .. but ... it appears I may have been wrong.

As Lenin wryly observed ... "There's a useful idiot born every minute."

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Those photos are exactly what I meant by "porno" ... they are photos of some naked bodies taken by twisted minds who got their jollies from kinky garbage like that ... and who later found themselves in jail after being prosecuted by the American justice system ... but ...

... I repeat ... there was no one being "tortured" ... no one was injured ... and no one was decapitated.

I had thought that the recent history of leftist "jounalists" being repeatedly duped by faked stories and faked photos proffered by terrorist propagandists ... would have inured even the most gullible from swallowing whole-hog such garbage .. but ... it appears I may have been wrong.

As Lenin wryly observed ... "There's a useful idiot born every minute."

I wait with bated breath for your links to reputable news organizations' articles on how these photos are fakes, BB... sorry, FoxNews doesn't count.

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

I wait with bated breath for your links to reputable news organizations' articles on how these photos are fakes, BB... sorry, FoxNews doesn't count.

Re-read my post ...

... I said faked stories ... and faked photos.

Given the humiliations that the leftist press has repeatedly suffered ... as their blatant agenda is ever more exposed as they are wilingly duped by terrorist propagandists ... one would think that both the stories and the photos would be met with a huge dollop of skepticism by any honorable, thinking person.

In this case ... the photos may be "real" ... but the accompanying stories about live bodies suddenly becoming dead ones ... should be considered highly dubious ... to say the least.

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Re-read my post ...

... I said faked stories ... and faked photos.

Given the humiliations that the leftist press has repeatedly suffered ... as their blatant agenda is ever more exposed as they are wilingly duped by terrorist propagandists ... one would think that both the stories and the photos would be met with a huge dollop of skepticism by any honorable, thinking person.

In this case ... the photos may be "real" ... but the accompanying stories about live bodies suddenly becoming dead ones ... should be considered highly dubious ... to say the least.

Bold one come on. We send that many troops over there... you know there are going to be some perverts. Its just probablility. If you take that many people from almost any population you are going to find some animals. And you put people under that much stress, in that environment, its bound to happen and it should be brought out to show WE will not stand for this behavior. WE will seek them out not brush it under the rug. WE are better than that and will not tolerate these acts. If the accussed are innocent we hope our system will prove this... If not, to the slammer or mental institute.

Originally Posted by pgardn

Bold one come on. We send that many troops over there... you know there are going to be some perverts. Its just probablility. If you take that many people from almost any population you are going to find some animals. And you put people under that much stress, in that environment, its bound to happen and it should be brought out to show WE will not stand for this behavior. WE will seek them out not brush it under the rug. WE are better than that and will not tolerate these acts. If the accussed are innocent we hope our system will prove this... If not, to the slammer or mental institute.

Say what?

I was the first to say that they were perverts ... all two of them ... or maybe there were three.

It's impossible not to gather 500,000 young, rambunctious people ... the approximate number which have served in Iraq ... and not have a few criminals and nutjobs.

My point ... however ... is that there was nothing remotely resembling the "torture" that the leftists so loudly and falsely proclaim. Having some male prisoners strip naked and pose for porno pictures is not "torture." It's unseemly and reprehensible and unworthy of U.S. military personnel ... but it's not torture.

And there's nothing ... absolutely nothing ... about Abu Ghraib for the American government ... or the American military ... or the American citizenry ... to feel sorry about or ashamed of. A few perverts got out of hand ... they were found out by their superiors ... and punished by our justice system. End of story.