Who's more incompetent: NYRA Stewards or Gabe Saez?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by docicu3

This is exactly the kind of thing that Vic S. was asking the DT community about the only difference being this was NY and that Vic was asking what the fans want from California stewards when a ruling is made that alters the order of finish. In california you get the telestrator explanation with a narrative.

Of course if the NY stewards tried to explain, as California does, what they were doing and why the order of finish changed in this race it is likely more controversy would lead to even more outrage than the silence of a strange and almost dirty looking ruling.

I would love to hear the stewards say:

"after reviewing the replay - we have concluded that Garcia almost fouled Saez on three seperate occasions but in our view he didn't quite cross the line each time. Even though they were at meaningful stages of the race and clearly hurt Proud Spell's chances - it was just good ruthless race riding by Garcia. Each time he walked the line - but didn't cross it.

However, when Proud Spell came out in the final 1/16th - he bumped Garcia's mount some as he exploded by her. Though that incident had no impact on the outcome - we believe he crossed the line just enough to warrent a dq."

That would go over very well with the bettors.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I would love to hear the stewards say:

"after reviewing the replay - we have concluded that Garcia almost fouled Saez on three seperate occasions but in our view he didn't quite cross the line each time. Even though they were at meaningful stages of the race and clearly hurt Proud Spell's chances - it was just good ruthless race riding by Garcia. Each time he walked the line - but didn't cross it.

However, when Proud Spell came out in the final 1/16th - he bumped Garcia's mount some as he exploded by her. Though that incident had no impact on the outcome - we believe he crossed the line just enough to warrent a dq."

That would go over very well with the bettors.

i value your opinion....
so with a clean trip, does proud spell win ?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

i value your opinion....
so with a clean trip, does proud spell win ?

I don't know.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I would love to hear the stewards say:

"after reviewing the replay - we have concluded that Garcia almost fouled Saez on three seperate occasions but in our view he didn't quite cross the line each time. Even though they were at meaningful stages of the race and clearly hurt Proud Spell's chances - it was just good ruthless race riding by Garcia. Each time he walked the line - but didn't cross it.

However, when Proud Spell came out in the final 1/16th - he bumped Garcia's mount some as he exploded by her. Though that incident had no impact on the outcome - we believe he crossed the line just enough to warrent a dq."

That would go over very well with the bettors.

that is quite funny!

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I would love to hear the stewards say:

"after reviewing the replay - we have concluded that Garcia almost fouled Saez on three seperate occasions but in our view he didn't quite cross the line each time. Even though they were at meaningful stages of the race and clearly hurt Proud Spell's chances - it was just good ruthless race riding by Garcia. Each time he walked the line - but didn't cross it.

However, when Proud Spell came out in the final 1/16th - he bumped Garcia's mount some as he exploded by her. Though that incident had no impact on the outcome - we believe he crossed the line just enough to warrent a dq."

That would go over very well with the bettors.

Exactly.....we could have an Andy segment. "Stupid Steward Screwups"....brought to you by "NYRA rewards"....eclipse awards would have to be added ......great stuff!!

You got a 4 horse race, and 3 out of the 4 stumble, two almost to the knees.
What the heck?
Did a little ground squirrel get in the dirt and root around in the ground in that gate?

[Bobby Fischer]

the new york race fixing racket's newest member is a Groundhog.

Doesn't say a whole lot for Alan Garcia when he can't get a job done without help from Punxsatawny Phil

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Well, I couldn't of cared less who came 1st-2nd-3rd in this race, but I was in a Vegas sportsbook watching it all go down. At the time, my sole conclusion from what took place was the stewards were playing homers. Garcia obviously shut this horse off badly coming into the stretch, and so( for Proud Spell to come 2nd) it's pretty obvious Proud Spell was much better than Garcia's horse. Either you care who was the better horse, or you don't. Anyone watching that race could see that Proud Spell was atleast 2nd best, and the incident in the stretch didn't cost anyone a placing. The only reason they would do this is to help out a rider who is normally riding the NYRA tracks. They didn't do it to help horseplayers out. 99% of the people betting that race know Proud Spell was atleast 2nd best on the day. As far as I am concerned, the 2 calls early on the Thursday Hwd Park card were both incorrect as well. To be honest, I think there was personal bias in all three calls. The 1st one on Thursday was payback for Nakatani saying the stewards didn't know what they were doing(last weekend when he thought he should of got put up in a stakes.) The 2nd one was an amazing no call on an apprentice repeatedly allowing a horse to keep coming out on a horse on the turn, the top of the stretch, the middle of the stretch, and in deep stretch. Exactly how much further did the outside horse have to run to avoid the horse who simply keeps coming out threatening to come over? You really think a horse is gunna go by a horse that keeps coming over on it that way? I'm sure he is a nice kid, but overlooking that (just so the kid can keep his 1st win ever at the track) is pretty pathetic.