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[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

lol its ok, i was only 5 in 1990, i did not start following the game till at least 1993

Well, then at least the name "Street Hero" should remind you of the greatest Rokeby horse of all-time (aside from Red Ransom), Sea Hero, who took the '93 Kentucky Derby and Travers.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Well, then at least the name "Street Hero" should remind you of the greatest Rokeby horse of all-time (aside from Red Ransom), Sea Hero, who took the '93 Kentucky Derby and Travers.

i remember sea hero, did bailey ride him ?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

i remember sea hero, did bailey ride him ?

Yep. Sea Hero now stands at stud in Turkey. Bailey acts like a Turkey on TV.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Yep. Sea Hero now stands at stud in Turkey. Bailey acts like a Turkey on TV.

i love bailey... i have a autographed copy of his book, Against the odds

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

i love bailey... i have a autographed copy of his book.

I'd rather read 300 pages of Beatle Bailey comic strips.

By the way, did he charge you for the autograph?

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I'd rather read 300 pages of Beatle Bailey comic strips.

By the way, did he charge you for the autograph?

no, do you watch the show Down the Stretch, on saturday mornings ? well a few years back they were doing a trivia thing, asking question, first caller to answer, would win his book, and a chance to meet him at the albany teletheater and for him to auto. it.... the question was who won some race in ny the year before, the answer was Peace Rules with Bailey riding, i called it in first, and won it.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Yep. Sea Hero now stands at stud in Turkey. Bailey acts like a Turkey on TV.

I hated Sea Hero.. likely because of Bailey, but for whatever reason. I've always felt he was the luckiest 'big race' winner ever. And why there is a statue of him in the Saratoga paddock continues to escape my comprehension. Of all the Travers winners in history, Sea Hero gets a monument in the Spa enclosure?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Kasept

I hated Sea Hero.. likely because of Bailey, but for whatever reason. I've always felt he was the luckiest 'big race' winner ever. And why there is a statue of him in the Saratoga paddock continues to escape my comprehension. Of all the Travers winners in history, Sea Hero gets a monument in the Spa enclosure?

That has to be brought up in any discussion of Sea Hero or of the Travers paddock. Always perplexed me too. In that Lost in the Fog movie, Harry Aleo walks by it and goes "Sea Hero.. He wasn't that good."

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

That has to be brought up in any discussion of Sea Hero or of the Travers paddock. Always perplexed me too. In that Lost in the Fog movie, Harry Aleo walks by it and goes "Sea Hero.. He wasn't that good."

That is priceless.. As big a fan as I was of Aleo, that just takes my apprciation to a new level. I have to get the guy that made the LITF film on the show this week...

[blackthroatedwind]

Funny, when I saw there was a Lost in the Fog movie, I said " Lost in the Fog? He wasn't that good. "

[KirisClown]

Originally Posted by Kasept

I hated Sea Hero.. likely because of Bailey, but for whatever reason. I've always felt he was the luckiest 'big race' winner ever. And why there is a statue of him in the Saratoga paddock continues to escape my comprehension. Of all the Travers winners in history, Sea Hero gets a monument in the Spa enclosure?

Didnt Paul Mellon donate it to the racetrack?

If they had to pay for it themselves.. I doubt it would be there..

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by KirisClown

Didnt Paul Mellon donate it to the racetrack?

If they had to pay for it themselves.. I doubt it would be there..

Paul Mellon was a great friend to racing. He donated the Sea Hero statue and it was put up, most likely, as a tribute to him. Call me crazy but I think he has earned the right.

Perhaps after another forty years of Carolina Barbecue, with both Steve and Joey working there, Saratoga can replace the Sea Hero statue with a statue of a large weenie commemorating all they have done for the game.

[KirisClown]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Paul Mellon was a great friend to racing. He donated the Sea Hero statue and it was put up, most likely, as a tribute to him. Call me crazy but I think he has earned the right..

I agree...

Owners like Mellon are sorely missed today... If anything, the statue is a reminder of some of the better days of racing...

[TheSpyder]

This would be better

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Paul Mellon was a great friend to racing. He donated the Sea Hero statue and it was put up, most likely, as a tribute to him. Call me crazy but I think he has earned the right.

Perhaps after another forty years of Carolina Barbecue, with both Steve and Joey working there, Saratoga can replace the Sea Hero statue with a statue of a large weenie commemorating all they have done for the game.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Paul Mellon was a great friend to racing. He donated the Sea Hero statue and it was put up, most likely, as a tribute to him. Call me crazy but I think he has earned the right.

Perhaps after another forty years of Carolina Barbecue, with both Steve and Joey working there, Saratoga can replace the Sea Hero statue with a statue of a large weenie commemorating all they have done for the game.

As a tribute to Paul Mellon, the Sea Hero statue is fine. It's the horse I never cared for... And if they are to erect a statue to me and The 'Cue, it would be of a Chicago Italian Beef Sandwich, which I consider my lasting contribution to the culinary offerings at the Spa.

(And as an FYI, Joey spent just a summer and a half working the Carolina mines. His career as a Cue-slinger is over.. While it may have shown flashes of brilliance, it was not a statue-earning tenure.)

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Kasept

I hated Sea Hero.. likely because of Bailey, but for whatever reason. I've always felt he was the luckiest 'big race' winner ever. And why there is a statue of him in the Saratoga paddock continues to escape my comprehension. Of all the Travers winners in history, Sea Hero gets a monument in the Spa enclosure?

We still have the 1993 Derby poster hanging in our living room.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by Kasept

I hated Sea Hero.. likely because of Bailey, but for whatever reason. I've always felt he was the luckiest 'big race' winner ever. And why there is a statue of him in the Saratoga paddock continues to escape my comprehension. Of all the Travers winners in history, Sea Hero gets a monument in the Spa enclosure?

why does everyone hate bailey ? i love him

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

why does everyone hate bailey ? i love him

how long is it going to take you to catch on?

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Kasept

I hated Sea Hero.. likely because of Bailey, but for whatever reason. I've always felt he was the luckiest 'big race' winner ever. And why there is a statue of him in the Saratoga paddock continues to escape my comprehension. Of all the Travers winners in history, Sea Hero gets a monument in the Spa enclosure?

Aside from the Mellon items added above, I think it's because Sea Hero was the first (or at least first in several decades) to complete the Derby - Travers double.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Aside from the Mellon items added above, I think it's because Sea Hero was the first (or at least first in several decades) to complete the Derby - Travers double.

Was first since Shut Out (1942) but first Derby-Travers winner was Baden Baden (1877). Others included Hindoo, Azra, Twenty Grand, Whirlaway (only TC winner to win Travers), Omar Khayyam...

Of course most famous non-Derby/Travers winner would be Gallant Fox who was stunned in 1930 by.....































Jim Dandy.