Barry Irwin Speaks Out

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It's enough to make Left Bank, Freedom's Daughter, and Warners all turn in their graves.

Golf clap...

[ateamstupid]

I like that someone called Iavarone's bullshit publicly, even if Irwin isn't squeaky clean himself.

Pot. Kettle.

[ELA]

Not that it matters, and it's certainly not the case here, however, if you give your horses to a "high profile" or "high percentage" trainer, who has a perfectly clean record, no positives, overages, etc. -- there will always be a group of people who scrutinize, critisize, and some who "just know" that they are "doing something" or along those lines.

Eric

Eric you constantly do this. You don't get questioned about your ultra positive/naive view of racing one tenth of what you give to the doubters. It's ponderous.

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Eric you constantly do this. You don't get questioned about your ultra positive/naive view of racing one tenth of what you give to the doubters. It's ponderous.

I have no idea what you are even taling about. Regardless, take it anyway you like it. IMO it is not ultra positive, nor naive in light of the reality. It doesn't have to be your reality, but that doesn't make it so and the same goes for me. Also, as far as the doubters, who are you talking about?

Eric

[blackthroatedwind]

Apparently sane and logical now passes for naive.

Originally Posted by ELA

I have no idea what you are even taling about. Regardless, take it anyway you like it. IMO it is not ultra positive, nor naive in light of the reality. It doesn't have to be your reality, but that doesn't make it so and the same goes for me. Also, as far as the doubters, who are you talking about?

Eric

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Not that it matters, and it's certainly not the case here, however, if you give your horses to a "high profile" or "high percentage" trainer, who has a perfectly clean record, no positives, overages, etc. -- there will always be a group of people who scrutinize, critisize, and some who "just know" that they are "doing something" or along those lines.

Eric

The doubters are the disgruntled fans you were referring to.

I just don't understand why a thread about an owner hating on other owners has to include a captain obvious moment to remind everyone "well...well some of the fans are bad too!"

Are they as bad as the trainers who break the rules repeatedly?

Which is more important in the grand scheme of things...getting the bad apples out of the training profession or getting the disgruntled fans out?

I'd really like to know your and any other owner or trainers opinion.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by ELA

Not that it matters, and it's certainly not the case here, however, if you give your horses to a "high profile" or "high percentage" trainer, who has a perfectly clean record, no positives, overages, etc. -- there will always be a group of people who scrutinize, critisize, and some who "just know" that they are "doing something" or along those lines.

Eric

And then there are others that like to bury their heads so far into the ground.

Gosh, I guess if someone says they didn't do something they obviously did, they must be innocent!

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

And then there are others that like to bury their heads so far into the ground.

Gosh, I guess if someone says they didn't do something they obviously did, they must be innocent!

Now that's naive, LOL. If you draw that conclusion from my comments than best of luck in your interpretation.

Eric