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[Danzig]

i don't think drf should be the one getting fingers pointed at it--the trainers who are currently adding to the woes of racing should be! if racing doesn't want a black eye, then they need to take steps to let people like asmussen and dutrow know that they aren't wanted; that their actions won't be tolerated.

and kentucky racing needs to give dutrow a stronger sentence. he is NOT a first time offender. since there is no nat'l body, each jurisdiction needs to change its rules--don't use reciprocity just to bench a trainer who is suspended elsewhere-offenses need to add up, regardless of where they occur. if clenbuterol is a class two drug, then he should be charged with having his 4th, or 7th, or whatever # of class two violation it is for him--not just his first if it's his first with clenbuterol.

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't think drf should be the one getting fingers pointed at it--the trainers who are currently adding to the woes of racing should be! if racing doesn't want a black eye, then they need to take steps to let people like asmussen and dutrow know that they aren't wanted; that their actions won't be tolerated.

and kentucky racing needs to give dutrow a stronger sentence. he is NOT a first time offender. since there is no nat'l body, each jurisdiction needs to change its rules--don't use reciprocity just to bench a trainer who is suspended elsewhere-offenses need to add up, regardless of where they occur. if clenbuterol is a class two drug, then he should be charged with having his 4th, or 7th, or whatever # of class two violation it is for him--not just his first if it's his first with clenbuterol.

Agreed -- excellent point, but the trainers, AND owners, vets, etc. and so on. Right down the line.

The other thing is, and I try to remember this and put myself in someone else's shoes -- when we watch horse racing on a major network, ESPN, or read about it in the NY Times, etc., we have to remember that broadcase, that article . . . is not being put out there for "us" so to speak. Different marketplace, different consumer, much broader market (more, closer to, entry level) with a hopefully larger and wider mass appeal.

Eric

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ELA

Agreed -- excellent point, but the trainers, AND owners, vets, etc. and so on. Right down the line.

The other thing is, and I try to remember this and put myself in someone else's shoes -- when we watch horse racing on a major network, ESPN, or read about it in the NY Times, etc., we have to remember that broadcase, that article . . . is not being put out there for "us" so to speak. Different marketplace, different consumer, much broader market (more, closer to, entry level) with a hopefully larger and wider mass appeal.

Eric

a blind eye has been turned for too long to all involved. get tough, now, or it'll only get worse.

i read an article one time at work....it was about stealing and the % of the population who won't steal, regardless of opportunity. i think that study could apply here.
it said that roughly 12-15% of people won't steal, regardless of opportunity. about another 10-15% will steal if given any opportunity at all. so that leaves the 70% or so in the middle...where will they fall? where do you want them to fall? they are on the fence--if they work for a place that isn't very strict, where they see stealing going on, and nothing done, they may fall off the fence and begin to take things as well-after all, management doesn't care, nothing is done about it, so it must be ok.
but, if you immediately get rid of anyone you catch with your hand in the cookie jar, anyone else who will steal will leave to find easier pickings, and those on the fence will either remain there, or fall to the side of 'i won't steal, as it won't be tolerated'.
i think that analogy applies here. you have some who will not cheat, some who will, and then all the rest-the majority--where does racing want them to fall??