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Old 06-26-2008, 05:24 PM
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Don't you think you are a little over the top with your "criminal" comparisions? I mean, just a little???
no.

my point is that i find it absolutely ridiculous that dutrow is being treated as a first time offender, and is being given a first offender suspension in ky. if we had a nat'l body, he'd be treated as the repeat offender he is.

jeremy rose won't be able to ride anywhere while serving the six month suspension given him in delaware. when asmussen was serving his six month suspension last winter and spring, he wasn't allowed to train anywhere in the country-so why aren't drug violations 'carried over' from one jurisdiction to the next, such as in dutrows case?

if he's had past class 2 violations, this should count as #8 for instance, not as a first offense since it's his first in kentucky. it's far from his first violation.
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Old 06-27-2008, 07:04 PM
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no.

my point is that i find it absolutely ridiculous that dutrow is being treated as a first time offender, and is being given a first offender suspension in ky. if we had a nat'l body, he'd be treated as the repeat offender he is.

jeremy rose won't be able to ride anywhere while serving the six month suspension given him in delaware. when asmussen was serving his six month suspension last winter and spring, he wasn't allowed to train anywhere in the country-so why aren't drug violations 'carried over' from one jurisdiction to the next, such as in dutrows case?

if he's had past class 2 violations, this should count as #8 for instance, not as a first offense since it's his first in kentucky. it's far from his first violation.
Clenbuterol is a Class III drug rather than a Class II. So a clenbuterol positive is not considered nearly as serious as a lidocaine or mepivicaine positive.
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Old 06-28-2008, 02:44 PM
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Clenbuterol is a Class III drug rather than a Class II. So a clenbuterol positive is not considered nearly as serious as a lidocaine or mepivicaine positive.

i was using that as an example--this clenbuterol isn't his first offense with that drug-not sure if it's his first offense with a class three...my only contention is with them charging him with a first offense, since it's not his first.
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Old 06-28-2008, 05:06 PM
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I heard that Vladimir just got another positive out here in California. I'm not sure what it was for. We will find out soon enough. I'm sure you are all shocked. He hasn't had too many. LOL.
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Old 06-28-2008, 05:12 PM
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I heard that Vladimir just got another positive out here in California. I'm not sure what it was for. We will find out soon enough. I'm sure you are all shocked. He hasn't had too many. LOL.
no doubt explains why some refer to his as vladimir syringe...
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Old 06-28-2008, 05:14 PM
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no doubt explains why some refer to his as vladimir syringe...
Yes, that is what many people call him out here.
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Old 06-30-2008, 06:52 PM
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The filly Asmussen got the positive test with finished last beaten 18+ lengths over the weekend in a small stake at Sun Rey Park (whereever that is!)

I assume any last ditch efforts to fix her problems will be no more - and she will be retired as a broodmare.

She's by Forestry out of a multiple Graded Stakes winning mare - she worked an 1/8th in 10 flat at a 2yo sale - and clearly had talent and pedigree to go along with real soundness issues.

It looks like they tried to piece her together and get her some soft blacktype to round out her broodmare resume ... instead all they got was a bad drug test out of the deal.
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