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Old 06-26-2008, 12:29 PM
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Was that a typo or you referring to his taking the overland route?

Hooves's middle name is typo.
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Old 06-26-2008, 12:37 PM
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Hooves's middle name is typo.
yes it is... arrrrrrrr the biggest hanger in ny..lol
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Old 06-26-2008, 12:53 PM
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If I may be so bold to ask...

In the board's opinion, what jockey is best a bringing
home horses that really should not be winning?
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Old 06-26-2008, 01:14 PM
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If I may be so bold to ask...

In the board's opinion, what jockey is best a bringing
home horses that really should not be winning?
there's no such thing. . .
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Old 06-26-2008, 01:21 PM
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there's no such thing. . .
So if a longer shot horse wins, the jockey can never have
a role in the win. Jockeys can only cause horses to lose?

Therefore the best jocks are the ones who screw up the least.
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Old 06-26-2008, 01:25 PM
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Pretty much. . . there's a difference between having a role in the win and being the reason for it, but no - a jockey can't make a horse - or at least his horse win.
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Old 06-26-2008, 01:40 PM
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Pretty much. . . there's a difference between having a role in the win and being the reason for it, but no - a jockey can't make a horse - or at least his horse win.
So if a jock has to make a decision... ahhh lets say a turf race turning for home. And the best decision for winning consists of two options:
1. to stay closer to the rail and get trapped or wait for a hole to open up as horses tire and move
versus

2. swinging wide and having a clear run but possibly sacrificing the horses chances to win by running further and using more energy

So there is no way for a jock to make the right decision because the right decision is always a known at that very point in time when the decision is made. Or there is no such thing at a particular point in time for two possible decisons to both have equivalent values. It is always clear that one is better than the other at that point in time (ie not after the race is over)

So that in watching any race, if a jock has to make a decision, a good handicapper knows what that decision should be at that very point in time?
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