Just in case anyone still thinks Prado can ride

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

gomez is far from the best... he is easily the most overated though.
we could go on for days about who the best is, there is really no way to tell, because trainers go hot/cold all the time, and when that happens, its sometimes not the jocks fault. as for gomez, IMO i would rather have... JV, kent, coa, julian l.... thats just 4, im sure there are more.

After seeing your top 15 jock list a ways back, Im not so sure anyone can take what you say seriously when it comes to riders. Horses too for that matter.

[zippyneedsawin]

I wasn't thrilled with Gomez' ride on Jazzy.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

I wasn't thrilled with Gomez' ride on Jazzy.

THAT was a GOOD ride.

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

THAT was a GOOD ride.

I guess you're right, it takes skill to find trouble and get trapped on the rail in a 5-horse field.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

I guess you're right, it takes skill to find trouble and get trapped on the rail in a 5-horse field.

The horse sucked up and got loose in the stretch with plenty of room to run. She got the best trip in the field, running the least amount of ground.
Would you have preferred she was with the pace, like the winner? She would've lost that way, too. The bottom line is that she wasn't good enough. When sprinters, that are stretching out slightly, allow cutback horses to run with the pace, THEY CAN'T WIN cause they can't finish with them.

Here are the last three splits of the race: 23.54 23.04 11.37 (projects to 22.74).

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

The horse sucked up and got loose in the stretch with plenty of room to run. She got the best trip in the field, running the least amount of ground.
Would you have preferred she was with the pace, like the winner? She would've lost that way, too. The bottom line is that she wasn't good enough. When sprinters, that are stretching out slightly, allow cutback horses to run with the pace, THEY CAN'T WIN cause they can't finish with them.

Here are the last three splits of the race: 23.54 23.04 11.37 (projects to 22.74).

It looked like to me that Jazzy lost some momentum about a furlong out as she was still stuck behind the 3,4 & 5.. by the time she got room to get through... it was too late. I agree, she did save ground the whole way, but what good is it when you don't have a clear run in the stretch?

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

It looked like to me that Jazzy lost some momentum about a furlong out as she was still stuck behind the 3,4 & 5.. by the time she got room to get through... it was too late. I agree, she did save ground the whole way, but what good is it when you don't have a clear run in the stretch?

Reverse her trip with Trouble Maker and TM buries Jazzy. Do you have an comprehension of how much an ADVANTAGE drafting INSIDE on the turf is? Jazzy got a FREE RIDE till midstretch. Story West is 'dueling' outside; Trouble Maker is wide, WITHOUT COVER, chasing, the entire race; and Waquoit's Love circles the field. Jazzy sucks along; gets clear at the ideal instance, and can't get up against horses that ran A LOT MORE than she did.

This is an EASY RACE to trip.

If you can't see this clearly, then I'm particularly pleased that you're part of the 'competition'.

[Indian Charlie]

Post of the year for me!!

Originally Posted by Originally Posted by jcs11204

gomez is far from the best... he is easily the most overated though.
we could go on for days about who the best is, there is really no way to tell, because trainers go hot/cold all the time, and when that happens, its sometimes not the jocks fault. as for gomez, IMO i would rather have... JV, kent, coa, julian l.... thats just 4, im sure there are more.

Originally Posted by declansharbor

After seeing your top 15 jock list a ways back, Im not so sure anyone can take what you say seriously when it comes to riders. Horses too for that matter.