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Old 06-24-2008, 07:44 AM
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From the DRF story:

"We haven't fully researched it," Iavarone said Monday, after the group put out a statement announcing the policy. "We're committed to the rules they have in Europe and Dubai. That's the standard everyone mentions."

In general, European regulations do not allow any medications to be administered on raceday. The policies in many European countries allow for concentration levels of certain drugs in post-race tests, so that horsemen can administer medications to horses while in training.

In contrast, every racing jurisdiction in the United States allows for the raceday administration of furosemide. In addition, several other jurisdictions allow for the raceday administration of so-called "adjunct bleeder medications" used in concert with furosemide, and several jurisdictions also allow for administration of phenylbutazone, a painkiller, within 48 hours of a race. As in Europe, U.S. racing states use concentration levels for dozens of commonly used drugs.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/95722.html



Interesting that they would make a statement without having fully researched it.

Kind of eyeopening for those who believe European racing to be totally "drug free". For all the talk about how rampant our drug problem is and how nothing has been done, after Jan 1st the only real difference will be Lasix and Bute and Bute is not even given on raceday here.
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Old 06-24-2008, 08:26 AM
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From the DRF story:

"We haven't fully researched it," Iavarone said Monday, after the group put out a statement announcing the policy. "We're committed to the rules they have in Europe and Dubai. That's the standard everyone mentions."

In general, European regulations do not allow any medications to be administered on raceday. The policies in many European countries allow for concentration levels of certain drugs in post-race tests, so that horsemen can administer medications to horses while in training.

In contrast, every racing jurisdiction in the United States allows for the raceday administration of furosemide. In addition, several other jurisdictions allow for the raceday administration of so-called "adjunct bleeder medications" used in concert with furosemide, and several jurisdictions also allow for administration of phenylbutazone, a painkiller, within 48 hours of a race. As in Europe, U.S. racing states use concentration levels for dozens of commonly used drugs.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/95722.html



Interesting that they would make a statement without having fully researched it.

Kind of eyeopening for those who believe European racing to be totally "drug free". For all the talk about how rampant our drug problem is and how nothing has been done, after Jan 1st the only real difference will be Lasix and Bute and Bute is not even given on raceday here.
They asked Dutrow what he thought about Iavarone's supposed new policy. Here is what Dutrow said: "He said it's all for raceday stuff and that's fine," Dutrow said. "I don't have any issues with that".

So what is he saying? He's saying that on race day they won't give anything except for lasix. They're not supposed to be giving anything on race day except for lasix.
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Old 06-24-2008, 09:02 AM
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They asked Dutrow what he thought about Iavarone's supposed new policy. Here is what Dutrow said: "He said it's all for raceday stuff and that's fine," Dutrow said. "I don't have any issues with that".

So what is he saying? He's saying that on race day they won't give anything except for lasix. They're not supposed to be giving anything on race day except for lasix.
It may have been taken out of context but it is funny. "We will stop giving meds on raceday except lasix" is similar to saying "I will not cheat on my wife except with my girrlfriend".
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Old 06-24-2008, 09:05 AM
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I thought big corporations tried to keep the fools behind the scenes where they cant be exposed. Unfortunately when you deal with the egos involved in this game the fools come out from behind the scenes.
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Old 06-24-2008, 10:51 AM
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Ivarone comes off as very disingenous to me. They had horses with Greg Martin a few years back who were accused of being milkshaked. THrough
their attorney IEAH was outraged and denied knowing anything about it. So what do they do for an encore, use Dick Dutrow who has a history of suspensions for drug positives.
One would think they would get so far away from someone with that reputation but alas the wall street mentality, win at all costs. This latest move to me is simply pandering to the media.. If Dutrow gets caught IEAH again will march out the attorney and claim to be outraged... I can see this coming a mile away setting the table for plausible deniability. I've had enough of IEAH .
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Old 06-25-2008, 05:51 AM
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Let's see how IEAH treats this...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/25/sp...=1&oref=slogin
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Old 06-25-2008, 06:16 AM
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'The Kentucky Horse Racing Authority will issue the ruling on Wednesday, suspend Dutrow for 15 days and demand the horse’s owner to return the $20,000 in purse earnings.'

'Veitch said the 15-day suspension and return of the purse money was the penalty for a first offense, according to Kentucky rules.'


but it's not his first offense, and not his first clenbuterol overage--is this his first in kentucky? and even if it is....well, let's revisit jeremy rose's six month suspension for a moment. he's off in delaware for six months, but they concede it's essentially a six month nationwide ban due to reciprocity between the states.


so why is there no reciprocity for things like this??
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:51 AM
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It may have been taken out of context but it is funny. "We will stop giving meds on raceday except lasix" is similar to saying "I will not cheat on my wife except with my girrlfriend".
Your quote has made perfect sense to me for years
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:52 AM
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I know this sounds kind of dumb but can't they test horses in the D barn the day before the race?
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:15 AM
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I know this sounds kind of dumb but can't they test horses in the D barn the day before the race?
The horses don't go to the detention barn until about 6 hours before the race.
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:32 AM
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It essentially is racefixing, especially if you are cashing large tickets. It doesnt matter what the feds want, it should be what the people want who gamble and run this business. Its ridiculous
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