Wow, someone actually gets it...

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://news.bloodhorse.com//viewstory.asp?id=45763

"As an aside, Thayer, had harsh words for a congressional hearing on medication that is scheduled in Washington, D.C. on June 20. Thayer said he believed regulation of drugs in horse racing is a state issue that should not involve the federal government and that the panel is “objectionable.”

Thayer labeled the hearing a “dog-and-pony show” and questioned whether Congress would have the ability to regulate horse racing when it could not help resolve the nation’s economic problems.

His statement led to a verbal clash with Whitfield, whose husband, Rep. Ed Whitfield, is one of the organizers of the congressional hearings. Both Thayer and Whitfield are Republicans."

The states are doing a great job, I suppose you think.

[10 pnt move up]

I normally advocate state rights and control, in this case though with simulcasting racing clearly has crossed state lines and needs to be federally regulated....and that is a painful statement to make. With the internet there has to be some uniform rules rather then the weak interpretations some of these states have made.

[freddymo]

What do they get?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

The states are doing a great job, I suppose you think.

The odds that the feds will do a better job is less than zero especially considering they have no intention of actually regulating anything. Perhaps you believe that Mr. and Mrs. Whitfield deeply care about a business that they have had no ties or connection to and intend on "fixing" it out of their love of horses. Some of us dont.

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The odds that the feds will do a better job is less than zero especially considering they have no intention of actually regulating anything. Perhaps you believe that Mr. and Mrs. Whitfield deeply care about a business that they have had no ties or connection to and intend on "fixing" it out of their love of horses. Some of us dont.

Is it Mrs. Whitfield that has some connection with the Humane Society?

[freddymo]

Someone, Somebody, some organization had better get a handle on the drug issue in racing soon.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Someone, Somebody, some organization had better get a handle on the drug issue in racing soon.

Please control yourself

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Please control yourself

I can't DrugS is at OBS bidding on misbred 2 year olds that he thinks can run.. lol

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I can't DrugS is at OBS bidding on misbred 2 year olds that he thinks can run.. lol

Please control your pursestrings then





plus if you wind up owning much out of that bunch of steeds you may need the drugs....as well as the horses

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

Is it Mrs. Whitfield that has some connection with the Humane Society?

Yeah that would be her.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The odds that the feds will do a better job is less than zero especially considering they have no intention of actually regulating anything. Perhaps you believe that Mr. and Mrs. Whitfield deeply care about a business that they have had no ties or connection to and intend on "fixing" it out of their love of horses. Some of us dont.

There is no reason to believe the feds cannot have a positive impact, especially as the states, the tracks and the hosermens' groups have proven they are unable or unwilling to address the medication abuse issues. There is also no reason to jump so far forward that people would believe that if there is some fed regulation, there would be no state oversight.

There s no good reason there cannot be federal legislation addressing medication and slaughter issues with the states responsible for other regulation and administration of all regs.

There are federal laws that apply to the insurance industry and yet states are responsible for regulation.

And not loving a sport or business has nothing to do with whether you can regulate it.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

There is no reason to believe the feds cannot have a positive impact, especially as the states, the tracks and the hosermens' groups have proven they are unable or unwilling to address the medication abuse issues. There is also no reason to jump so far forward that people would believe that if there is some fed regulation, there would be no state oversight.

There s no good reason there cannot be federal legislation addressing medication and slaughter issues with the states responsible for other regulation and administration of all regs.

There are federal laws that apply to the insurance industry and yet states are responsible for regulation.

And not loving a sport or business has nothing to do with whether you can regulate it.

If you believe this will actually happen there is a bridge that i can sell you...


Though I believe that the RMTC has done many things the wrong way the basic mission that they have is a good one. To say that nothing has been done concerning the drug issue is wrong. It may have not been conducted in the most efficent or effective manner but to act as though nothing has been done or that the feds will have a better plan is simply wrong.

Horse slaughter is not a horseracing problem, it is a people problem. The vast majority of horses sent for slaughter arent racehorses. If there were effective laws made by Congress, horseslaughter would not be an issue. Of course then all the unwanted horses roaming around starving would become an issue as it has already.

Only you can believe that Whitfield 1 and 2 have good intentions especially in light of her humane Society connection after she magically appeared at the KHRA's doorstep.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

If you believe this will actually happen there is a horse that i can sell you....

FTFY

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

If you believe this will actually happen there is a bridge that i can sell you...


Though I believe that the RMTC has done many things the wrong way the basic mission that they have is a good one. To say that nothing has been done concerning the drug issue is wrong. It may have not been conducted in the most efficent or effective manner but to act as though nothing has been done or that the feds will have a better plan is simply wrong.

Horse slaughter is not a horseracing problem, it is a people problem. The vast majority of horses sent for slaughter arent racehorses. If there were effective laws made by Congress, horseslaughter would not be an issue. Of course then all the unwanted horses roaming around starving would become an issue as it has already.

Only you can believe that Whitfield 1 and 2 have good intentions especially in light of her humane Society connection after she magically appeared at the KHRA's doorstep.

I have been donating to RMTC for a few years and their intentions are good. But their results are pretty lousy. So, I have bought the bridge. You are too late.

The positive steps by RMTC and NTRA are akin to running the ball late in the 4th quarter while you are down 3 touchdowns.

The industry groups are far too incestuous. Nothing gets done. The penalties for breaking rules are next to nothing.

Yet, you and other trainers and owners say that steroids do not enhance performance. Is that bridge still for sale?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Ratt On Scuds You Goof










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[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

I have been donating to RMTC for a few years and their intentions are good. But their results are pretty lousy. So, I have bought the bridge. You are too late.

The positive steps by RMTC and NTRA are akin to running the ball late in the 4th quarter while you are down 3 touchdowns.

The industry groups are far too incestuous. Nothing gets done. The penalties for breaking rules are next to nothing.

Yet, you and other trainers and owners say that steroids do not enhance performance. Is that bridge still for sale?

The RMTC and its goals have not progressed fast enough for many simply because of the political nature of their mission. They concentrated on the penalty phase first before the research was properly done which is backwards. To think that this Congressional inquiry will not go down that same path is amusing.

Steroids dont enhance performance but you can believe whatever you want.

What you and most others are not getting that this whole thing is NOT about helping horseracing. It is about helping Ed Whitfield and helping further his wife's organizations agenda. Horseracing is not the primary goal here, it is the vehicle to get what this guy wants.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The RMTC and its goals have not progressed fast enough for many simply because of the political nature of their mission. They concentrated on the penalty phase first before the research was properly done which is backwards. To think that this Congressional inquiry will not go down that same path is amusing.

Steroids dont enhance performance but you can believe whatever you want.

What you and most others are not getting that this whole thing is NOT about helping horseracing. It is about helping Ed Whitfield and helping further his wife's organizations agenda. Horseracing is not the primary goal here, it is the vehicle to get what this guy wants.

No, I get the politics. My wife worked for a U.S. senator for several years. I get it very well.

The RMTC politics are there because they have no power and are funded by the very groups whose behavior they are are trying to change and those groups do not want change.

And, yes, I do thing steroids enhance performance. Do you really think Lyle Alzado would have been just as good off the gook?

[Rileyoriley]

Only you can believe that Whitfield 1 and 2 have good intentions especially in light of her humane Society connection after she magically appeared at the KHRA's doorstep.[/quote]





From what I understand, they are being very selective about who will testify. Others who have asked to testify ( and in my opinion, would be very good witness's) have been declined. This appears to be very one-sided. Again, just my opinion.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

Only you can believe that Whitfield 1 and 2 have good intentions especially in light of her humane Society connection after she magically appeared at the KHRA's doorstep.

From what I understand, they are being very selective about who will testify. Others who have asked to testify ( and in my opinion, would be very good witness's) have been declined. This appears to be very one-sided. Again, just my opinion.[/quote]
yeah a loaded deck. stunning development.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The odds that the feds will do a better job is less than zero especially considering they have no intention of actually regulating anything. Perhaps you believe that Mr. and Mrs. Whitfield deeply care about a business that they have had no ties or connection to and intend on "fixing" it out of their love of horses. Some of us dont.

Chuck the fed's had a huge impact on professional sports, once they targeted drugs..