6/14 (CD): Stephen Foster Day

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

What does the 115 Beyer have to do with it? Beyers are lower on turf (and less relevant) and they don't make beyers for euro races so I have no idea what those horses are running. I also doubt Curlin will be as good on dirt, but I'm not going to rule out the possibility of it happening because it would add some more excitement to a very dull year.

When European horses come run in the BC Turf (mind you we don't always get their best), they often run 110+ Beyers. If you don't think they're running at least the equivalent of that in the Arc.. I don't know what to say.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

When European horses come run in the BC Turf (mind you we don't always get their best), they often run 110+ Beyers. If you don't think they're running at least the equivalent of that in the Arc.. I don't know what to say.

Didn't you bring up the beyer thing as a reference to Curlin essentially saying that he probably can't run 115 beyers on turf but he can on dirt? I don't even know why you brought it up. . . I don't disagree with you that the horses in the Arc probably run that kind of fig (although, this is a dangerous and worthless assumption - imagine if beyers existed in Europe and not here and people were just assuming that all the top horses here were running 115s) but it just seems like a really strange way to look at things when beyers don't exist for European racing and beyers on turf aren't really the most accurate way to assess a performance. Curlin can beat any dirt horse in the world, so if he was just as good on the turf (which probably isn't the case) why couldn't he compete against top turf horses?