6/14 (CD): Stephen Foster Day

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

We can pick examples out all night. Lure was better than any turf miler I have seen from Europe and Manila is at least as good as any euro I have seen period. But that doesnt mean much. Obviously the euros have top turf horses and different style racing but I disagree with the idea that european horses are superior on the whole than American horses.

I never would assert that European horses are superior than American horses on the whole, and I don't believe that at all.

The only statement I stand behind is that their top class grass runners are superior to our top class turfers.

That is all.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scurlogue Champ

I never would assert that European horses are superior than American horses on the whole, and I don't believe that at all.

The only statement I stand behind is that their top class grass runners are superior to our top class turfers.

That is all.

But the reason that an American horse (like Curlin) will have a hard time winning the ARC isn't because they arent good enough, but because the style of racing and the course not to mention the ground are totally different than anything they have ever encountered, which was the original arguement.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

But the reason that an American horse (like Curlin) will have a hard time winning the ARC isn't because they arent good enough, but because the style of racing and the course not to mention the ground are totally different than anything they have ever encountered, which was the original arguement.

That is a point I will consider, especially if Curlin romps in some grass race here and then gets stroked over there due to layout and ground condition.

I appreciate the banter.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scurlogue Champ

That is a point I will consider, especially if Curlin romps in some grass race here and then gets stroked over there due to layout and ground condition.

I appreciate the banter.

Remember one thing about big hype european horses, they often run in small fields, aided by rabbits and will often only race when the "ground is suitable". That doesnt mean they all do it but cupcake city is often in effect. The funny thing is that we used to look down on the Euros because they would hype a horse off of one big win like it was the second coming of Mill Reef and now we do the same thing over here (see Big Brown)

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Scurlogue Champ

I never would assert that European horses are superior than American horses on the whole, and I don't believe that at all.

The only statement I stand behind is that their top class grass runners are superior to our top class turfers.

That is all.

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