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Old 06-15-2008, 11:28 PM
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Big deal - he ran a 101 beyer vs. bad horses (unless Mint Lane miraculously became a good horse over night) with an easy set-up. . . how was that "superfreaky" or whatever you called it. . . and then what happened to him? I know the connections say he's coming back for the Breeder's Cup - but I'd be shocked if we ever see him here again. He's fragile and unproven and I refuse to call him a monster at this point (so I'll also take back my praise of UB's Heart - he's probably nothing special).
mint lane was always good, he won at pimlico, beat ichabod, who came back to run third... the pp's show mint lane has been solid. casino drive... 101 beyer, second career start at 70-80% fit ?
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:31 PM
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It's not a good idea to bank on this 70-80% fit thing. And if beating Icabad Crane is the measure of a good horse this game is really in trouble.
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:31 PM
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It's not a good idea to bank on this 70-80% fit thing. And if beating Icabad Crane is the measure of a good horse this game is really in trouble.
you beat me to the first, and so true on the second.
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:34 PM
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It's not a good idea to bank on this 70-80% fit thing. And if beating Icabad Crane is the measure of a good horse this game is really in trouble.
i wont argue that... this game is in real trouble
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:31 PM
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that's if you believe the trainer on the 70-80% fit stuff. do you really think that's the case?
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:33 PM
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that's if you believe the trainer on the 70-80% fit stuff. do you really think that's the case?
why wouldnt i ? second career start ? shipped from japan... PREP FOR THE BELMONT,
dam you guys are crazy... no lets believe ppl like dickey dutrow
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:34 PM
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why wouldnt i ? second career start ? shipped from japan... PREP FOR THE BELMONT,
dam you guys are crazy... no lets believe ppl like dickey dutrow
i don't believe either of them.
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:35 PM
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why wouldnt i ? second career start ? shipped from japan... PREP FOR THE BELMONT,
dam you guys are crazy... no lets believe ppl like dickey dutrow
You can't really believe anything a trainer says about his/her horses. . . (Sadly I didn't listen to my own advice today.)
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:37 PM
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You can't really believe anything a trainer says about his/her horses. . . (Sadly I didn't listen to my own advice today.)
casino drives connections appear to be legit, and only care about the horse.. unlike most trainers over here
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:42 PM
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casino drives connections appear to be legit, and only care about the horse.. unlike most trainers over here
It has nothing to do with caring about the horse - how can they quantify a horse's fitness level like that? Especially when he's so lightly raced?
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:48 PM
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casino drives connections appear to be legit, and only care about the horse.. unlike most trainers over here
Dear tardo,
Yeah the Japs love their horses.

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Old 06-15-2008, 11:49 PM
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Yeah the Japs love their horses.

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haha great point. . .
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Old 06-16-2008, 12:19 AM
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Yeah the Japs love their horses.

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Those Japs rock those horses out.

When I was living in Australia, a trainer told me that anytime a horse was returned from Japan or Hong Kong that it would lose it's mind and cower in the stall if an asian walked by or was anywhere around.

Apparently they are pretty rough on them, this is just hearsay though. And more Hong Kong than Japan due to the constant back and forth with the Aussies and Hong Kong runners.
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Old 06-16-2008, 09:25 AM
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Hate to be a nitpicker. Well, actually I love it, but he didn't win at Pimlico. Icabad crane won that race. Might want to look at those PP's that show you how solid he has been a little closer.
correct he set the pace and ran second
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