Saturdays Top Performers ?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Einstein is not winning the JC Gold Cup. He has no acceleration on dirt.

I suppose he will still have license issues but the handicap division has never been more disgraceful than it may be this fall.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I suppose he will still have license issues but the handicap division has never been more disgraceful than it may be this fall.

I suppose but there might be some improving 3YOs ( what if Mint Lane's for real? ) and it won't take much to beat Einstein.

God, I wonder what is going to line up for the Suburban.

[Cannon Shell]

I know sometimes we may be overly critical of crops and divisions and such things but this is really a totally talentless older horse division with one notable exception. I mean honestly who has any real ability besides Curlin? It is a collection of marginally talented knockarounds who show up once in a while and over the hill horses who were never really that good anyway. I guess some of the polymonsters can deflect the issue a bit but these older horses really suck.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Mint Lane isn't much.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Mint Lane isn't much.

You're preaching to the choir....but where the hell did his race Friday come from?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You're preaching to the choir....but where the hell did his race Friday come from?

I think there were a lot of smoke and mirrors with his performance Friday.

It was a trip very similar to the one that yielded a 119 Beyer for Commentator and a 118 Beyer for Monterary Jazz - all allowed a free ride on an uncontested lead through very moderate fractions going a middle distance.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I think there were a lot of smoke and mirrors with his performance Friday.

It was a trip very similar to the one that yielded a 119 Beyer for Commentator and a 118 Beyer for Monterary Jazz - all allowed a free ride on an uncontested lead through very moderate fractions going a middle distance.

can we please never ever compare commentator to mint lane

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I was comparing similar trips they had - he ran 13 points (7 lengths at that distance) faster than Mint Lane in the two races being compared

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I think there were a lot of smoke and mirrors with his performance Friday.

It was a trip very similar to the one that yielded a 119 Beyer for Commentator and a 118 Beyer for Monterary Jazz - all allowed a free ride on an uncontested lead through very moderate fractions going a middle distance.

I understand, but when you consider how slow the track was playing I'm not so sure the pace was moderate at all. But, a lot of races during the week were reasonably fast early and slow late so you might be right.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I understand, but when you consider how slow the track was playing I'm not so sure the pace was moderate at all. But, a lot of races during the week were reasonably fast early and slow late so you might be right.

His expected pace rival didn't break well - and visually they all appeared well within themselves.

The half mile fraction in an MSW race for fillies an hour earlier went a full second faster to the half mile - but that race did fracture and a 32/1 shot who was last after a half did win. Maybe I'm wrong about the pace being very slow - but that's how it seemed to me on first impression.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I think there were a lot of smoke and mirrors with his performance Friday.

It was a trip very similar to the one that yielded a 119 Beyer for Commentator and a 118 Beyer for Monterary Jazz - all allowed a free ride on an uncontested lead through very moderate fractions going a middle distance.

I dunno how moderate those fractions were.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I dunno how moderate those fractions were.

do we really care about mint lane ? and if hes so good, then what is casino drive ? the best horse in the world ?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I dunno how moderate those fractions were.

Every horse was under mild restraint and MSW fillies went a full second faster to the half earlier in the card.

If the figure is to be believed - the horse that impressed me in there was Unbridled's Heart. I was a little skeptical of him - but if the fig is true he's pretty good.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

God, I wonder what is going to line up for the Suburban.

I was trying to figure that out the other day and the best horses I could come up with were AP Arrow and Sir Whimsey. Then I vomited.