Best Horseshoer Is Wes Champagne

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

You might find THIS interesting.

Hope there's no rule against posting a link to another forum.

You posted a professional, 2nd hand redboard. you cant be serious

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You posted a professional, 2nd hand redboard. you cant be serious

Not about the betting; the comments about the horse 'pointing' after the workout. I haven't seen that tape; nor do I know what 'pointing' is, if, in fact, it's something; or whether the horse was doing what was claimed.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Not about the betting; the comments about the horse 'pointing' after the workout. I haven't seen that tape; nor do I know what 'pointing' is, if, in fact, it's something; or whether the horse was doing what was claimed.

If the guy has to make a phone call to determine what he saw how do we know what he saw in the 1st place? you could have been a sage with this "info" before the race, now it is just redboard, 20/20 hindsight. I have had horses with quartercracks get them patched a few days before the race and run fine. i have had some that went fine for a day and went lame again. it is hard to believe that there were 400 people and cameras watching the horse everyday and noone except this guy who doesnt know what he is looking at saw this?

[the_fat_man]

I have no interest in the expertise of the poster (or his clocker); let's look beyond the BS.

What I'm interested in is whether horses actually 'point'.

If they do, does it follow that if they're sore then this would be indicated by heat in the area?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I have no interest in the expertise of the poster (or his clocker); let's look beyond the BS.

What I'm interested in is whether horses actually 'point'.

If they do, does it follow that if they're sore then this would be indicated by heat in the area?

Sure horses point. Sometimes it means something and other times it means nothing. But a horse pointing while getting a bath and then walking off sound would be unusual to say the least. Most trainers dont know what they are looking at let alone media guys.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Most trainers dont know what they are looking at let alone media guys.

Now you're sounding like me. I can't believe that's true.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Now you're sounding like me. I can't believe that's true.

Trainers may be more aware of things like stomach ulcers, different types of shoes, etc. but as someone who would know but will remain nameless said to me a few years ago, "Most trainers nowdays learned from trainers that didnt know what the hell they were doing". Actually horsemanship is most certainly lacking. You dont measure that with win percentage as there are guys winning that really dont have a clue and there are guys not winning that simply have nothing to work with. To me claiming a horse, spending $1500 a month in vetwork and winning on the drop is not a display of great horsemanship but it will get you a nice win percentage.