Invisible Stewards Race 2 Belmont Day

[slotdirt]

Ok, I have to stop things there. Since when is it hard to find action in the non-350 lb. category at Saratoga?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Ok, I have to stop things there. Since when is it hard to find action in the non-350 lb. category at Saratoga?

its not, but GPK proceeded to try and alter my focus from the racing form to 350lb woman that HE wanted....He was trying to throw the handsome young buck to do the dirty work so they he can try and use his old man charm to seal the deal on minimum effort. I didn't fall for it.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Scav

its not, but GPK proceeded to try and alter my focus from the racing form to 350lb woman that HE wanted....He was trying to throw the handsome young buck to do the dirty work so they he can try and use his old man charm to seal the deal on minimum effort. I didn't fall for it.

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[SentToStud]

What happened after that race was ridiculous. There is always an outrider with a walkie-talkie at the same spot on the track. Aside from a breakdown or other incident, they are there for the sole purpose of relaying any claim of foul. If you ever wondered how it can be that races are posted official before the horses all return to be unsaddled it is because they have all passed the designated outrider on their return from the gallop out. That's how it's supposed to work anyway.

Maybe the stewards mistakenly thought this happened but then again, what were they looking at during the race? It seemed pretty clear that there was some action in there. The stewards should be fined or otherwise disciplined as should the outrider.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

The stewards should be fined or otherwise disciplined as should the outrider.

What exactly did the stewards do that you know is wrong?

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

What exactly did the stewards do that you know is wrong?

They are responsible for the race. From the time thay go on the track to the time the weigh out is done. That includes a reasonable time frame to allow for an objection, which they did not do. If they screwed up and thought the horses had passed the deignated outrider, they should be fined. If they didn't bother to see if that happened, they should be fined more. It really doesn't matter one bit if it would have been a valid foul claim. There were two photos in the race so it wasn't super quick. Either they screwed up or Garcia lied and maybe figured there'd be an inquiry.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

They are responsible for the race. From the time thay go on the track to the time the weigh out is done. That includes a reasonable time frame to allow for an objection, which they did not do. If they screwed up and thought the horses had passed the deignated outrider, they should be fined. If they didn't bother to see if that happened, they should be fined more. It really doesn't matter one bit if it would have been a valid foul claim. There were two photos in the race so it wasn't super quick. Either they screwed up or Garcia lied and maybe figured there'd be an inquiry.

You're making an awful lot of assumptions to have such an absolute opinion.

Races aren't made official after the weigh out any more in most cases. How do you know exactly how it works between the outriders and the stewards?

Maybe the stewards are responsible. But for you to be so absolute without knowing anything close to any of the facts seems a little puzzling.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You're making an awful lot of assumptions to have such an absolute opinion.

Races aren't made official after the weigh out any more in most cases. How do you know exactly how it works between the outriders and the stewards?

Maybe the stewards are responsible. But for you to be so absolute without knowing anything close to any of the facts seems a little puzzling.

What's so puzzling? Yeah, I know they don't wait for the weigh out. They DO wait to "clear" the race of objection in the manner I described.

Aside from you doubting my knowledge, perhaps you can tell me how it could be possible to do it any other way?

The facts? Really now, what exactly are the facts? That is aside from either Garcia lying or the stewards screwing up.