Most Disapointing horse today at belmont ?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Not really - D' Tara had it all his own way and was staying on well enough.

DoC has never really been a big finisher through the stretch.

I'll agree on DOC not being a big finisher, he had no excuse from my vantage point, he was closer to the pace yesterday than the Derby and had less to do. But still couldn't pass D'Tara as they crawled home. I doubt any of these horses would even make Jan Rushton's watch list.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by CSC

But still couldn't pass D'Tara as they crawled home.

Older horses carryling 10lbs less weight came home in slower time in the Brooklyn on Friday.

I realize the track wasn't as fast on Friday - but the Brooklyn got a 107 Beyer with a 27+ final quarter.

When you consider how tremendously moderate that group of 3yo's were yesterday - and factor in that they are carrying 126lbs at 12fs - and while the pace wasn't much - the winner's 26.40 come home time was hardly something that stood out as clearly the weakest part of a very low rated race.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Older horses carryling 10lbs less weight came home in slower time in the Brooklyn on Friday.

I realize the track wasn't as fast on Friday - but the Brooklyn got a 107 Beyer with a 27+ final quarter.

When you consider how tremendously moderate that group of 3yo's were yesterday - and factor in that they are carrying 126lbs at 12fs - and while the pace wasn't much - the winner's 26.40 come home time was hardly something that stood out as clearly the weakest part of a very low rated race.

'very weak group... all of them are weak, pyro, brown, war pass everyone is weak to ok at best, no greats, not even close to greats.
da tara could be a good one, pedigree says he should get better with age, in great hands with zito, he could turn out to be a good one.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Older horses carryling 10lbs less weight came home in slower time in the Brooklyn on Friday.

I realize the track wasn't as fast on Friday - but the Brooklyn got a 107 Beyer with a 27+ final quarter.

When you consider how tremendously moderate that group of 3yo's were yesterday - and factor in that they are carrying 126lbs at 12fs - and while the pace wasn't much - the winner's 26.40 come home time was hardly something that stood out as clearly the weakest part of a very low rated race.

Do you think that fig is legit?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I take most figures earned at rarely run distances with a grain of salt.

Both the Brooklyn and Belmont were obviously the only two turn routes on the card - and both were run at rarely run distances. The figures are pretty much best guesses in those situations.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I take most figures earned at rarely run distances with a grain of salt.

Both the Brooklyn and Belmont were obviously the only two turn routes on the card - and both were run at rarely run distances. The figures are pretty much best guesses in those situations.

That's what I figured. 107 seems too high for Delosvientos.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

That's what I figured. 107 seems too high for Delosvientos.

i was thinking 97....

[hockey2315]

i figured it'd be around his usual 102

[CSC]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

That's what I figured. 107 seems too high for Delosvientos.

I took a look at the times for Friday's card and you don't have to be a figure maker to see the track was much deeper that day, I orginally thought the same thing as you did however with so few races run at that distance as Drugs mentioned it is an educated best guess.

[VOL JACK]

Vitruvious was the most disappointing to me.
I knew j jerkens would have a big day, I just decided to back up the truck on the wrong one. 2-3 isnt bad though.

oh yeah, and anything trained by Pletcher stunk.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Vitruvious was the most disappointing to me.
I knew j jerkens would have a big day, I just decided to back up the truck on the wrong one. 2-3 isnt bad though.

oh yeah, and anything trained by Pletcher stunk.

The Pletcher story is an interesting one. I wonder what his record was on Belmont Day for the other years in this decade. Going into Saturday's card he was barely averaging one starter per day at Belmont. One thing is clear, unless he has a strong group of 2YOs this year, he is weak in pretty much all divisions.