Most Impressive Horse today at belmont ?

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

once he got going he was motoring in the stretch. i still don't know what class is so i can't really comment on that.

i disagree, strongly... benny is great, wonderful horse... but he won today because the group he faced was very weak, he looked to be in a ton of trouble, and then MAN OF DANGER decides to just stop.

[hockey2315]

just watch the race again. . . I don't even know what we're arguing about at this point. . .

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

just watch the race again. . . I don't even know what we're arguing about at this point. . .

im not arguing, i told you yesterday i respect you... i guess we just saw it a different way... my point is... any decent grade 1-2 speed horse, opens up off of those fractions and benny is second by 5, luckily for dutrow, they cought a weak group and benny outclassed them, which he should have,

[The Bid]

Eventhough Benny needed the race it woulda taken a 110 to beat him. Not many horses running that right now going 3/4

[hockey2315]

couldn't it just be that Benny's the best sprinter in the world? and even though the front-runner may have had a tactical advantage it wasn't enough to overcome his lesser ability compared to the winner?

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

couldn't it just be that Benny's the best sprinter in the world? and even though the front-runner may have had a tactical advantage it wasn't enough to overcome his lesser ability compared to the winner?

he is hands down the best sprinter in the world right now....

[ArlJim78]

it was a day filled with some very nice performances, but one that stands out to me is J Be K. He dueled between horses through fast fractions for about five furlongs, before drawing off by about five in less than 1:22 time.

someone may have mentioned this but the six furlong split in this race (1:08.78) was faster than the final time of the True North, 1:09.06

that was a big effort.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

it was a day filled with some very nice performances, but one that stands out to me is J Be K. He dueled between horses through fast fractions for about five furlongs, before drawing off by about five in less than 1:22 time.

someone may have mentioned this but the six furlong split in this race (1:08.78) was faster than the final time of the True North, 1:09.06

that was a big effort.

I noticed that also, I'm sure someone will weigh in and clarify the varying track variants with races later in the day, but that was one very good performance by the highweight which again sorry if I sound like a broken record, you just have to wonder how good Harlem Rocker is or can be.

[pick4]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

i disagree, strongly... benny is great, wonderful horse... but he won today because the group he faced was very weak, he looked to be in a ton of trouble, and then MAN OF DANGER decides to just stop.

Belmont Day would of been a great day for me if Man of Danger held on. But Benny the Bull ran an amazing race considering the way the track was and the splits. The chart http://www.drf.com/drfPDFChartRacesI...=20080607&RN=6
says Man of Danger ran his eyeballs out only to be passed by a very talented sprinter.

[blackthroatedwind]

Desert Key got away with a very easy first quarter. He might be a very nice horse, he wasn't awesome yesterday, but he has a little way to go before he it is really fair to compare him favorably to J Be K ( who I'm still a little dubious of though he ran well yesterday ).

Zaftig is a nice horse and the Mother Goose is threatening to be a corker.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Desert Key got away with a very easy first quarter. He might be a very nice horse, he wasn't awesome yesterday, but he has a little way to go before he it is really fair to compare him favorably to J Be K ( who I'm still a little dubious of though he ran well yesterday ).

Zaftig is a nice horse and the Mother Goose is threatening to be a corker.

Desert Key did indeed get away with a soft quarter, but I still was impressed with how easily he disposed of Accredit, who also was on that modest quarter.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Desert Key did indeed get away with a soft quarter, but I still was impressed with how easily he disposed of Accredit, who also was on that modest quarter.

Accredit, despite my mistaken opinion this winter, is not much horse to say the least.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Accredit, despite my mistaken opinion this winter, is not much horse to say the least.

no he's not, but it is kiran and he was in good form, and desert just ran away from him.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

no he's not, but it is kiran and he was in good form, and desert just ran away from him.

He's not a beer.....his name is Kiaran.

Running away from Accredit is meaningless....period.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Zaftig is a nice horse and the Mother Goose is threatening to be a corker.

Do you think she'd be up to the Mother Goose, if Proud Spell and the Godolphin filly Music Note show up there? In the rather modest Nassau County, Zaftig looked dead on the turn, but the race fell apart in front of her and she went on to win. And my take from the Acorn was more a negative on Indian Blessing (and the other two fillies that didn't show up) than a positive on Zaftig.

[hockey2315]

She might be better than Proud Spell.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

She might be better than Proud Spell.

Must be osmosis, I was just thinking of her...

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Do you think she'd be up to the Mother Goose, if Proud Spell and the Godolphin filly Music Note show up there? In the rather modest Nassau County, Zaftig looked dead on the turn, but the race fell apart in front of her and she went on to win. And my take from the Acorn was more a negative on Indian Blessing (and the other two fillies that didn't show up) than a positive on Zaftig.

Of course she'll run.

She didn't look dead on the turn to me. I bet her, and was watching the race with Mike Lakow, and said to him on the turn that she looked like she would win by the length of the stretch.

Music Note should fear Zaftig....not the other way around. As for Proud Spell, that's another question, but what better spot can you think of for Zaftig to take on the division leader than a one turn mile and an eighth at Belmont?

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Of course she'll run.

She didn't look dead on the turn to me. I bet her, and was watching the race with Mike Lakow, and said to him on the turn that she looked like she would win by the length of the stretch.

Music Note should fear Zaftig....not the other way around. As for Proud Spell, that's another question, but what better spot can you think of for Zaftig to take on the division leader than a one turn mile and an eighth at Belmont?

if they all go, it could be a classic

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Music Note should fear Zaftig....not the other way around. As for Proud Spell, that's another question, but what better spot can you think of for Zaftig to take on the division leader than a one turn mile and an eighth at Belmont?

I agree that a 9F at Belmont is the optimal spot for Zaftig to take on the division leaders; I guess I just don't hold her in as high regard as some of the others on here.

Of the up-and-comers in the 3YO filly division, I tend to have a higher opinion of Acoma, the Empire Maker half-sister to Arch that won the Dogwood last weekend. While it would be a big step up in class (depending on who showed up), with her pedigree, I'd think the CCA Oaks or the Alabama would be the spot to which to point Acoma.