The Gods have finally spoken...

[Samarta]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Horses dont break down from quartercracks. There very well be an abcess underneath there causing him some discomfort but unless you have xray vision or a crystal ball you just dont know. Most of you have no understanding exactly how hard it is to train horses. It is the reason that some of us 'wonder' about the guys that seemingly make it look easy.

But if that's the case wouldn't he favor it? I'm asking..I have no idea...whatever it was, and I think it just wasn't meant to be.....as much as racing would like to have a tc winner, these connections are everything that horse racing does not need.....couldn't have turned out better....

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Samarta

But if that's the case wouldn't he favor it? I'm asking..I have no idea...whatever it was, and I think it just wasn't meant to be.....as much as racing would like to have a tc winner, these connections are everything that horse racing does not need.....couldn't have turned out better....

sometimes these things dont bother the horse until they are pushed to the extremes like in a race. you are patching over something an hoping that there isnt anything else in there.

[Danzig]

isn't that why they waited so long to patch it? to let whatever was in there out? surely he had some drainage. i know they said he had a bit of heat in there, so obviously something was going on.
if i remember correctly, it took a couple days after the belmont before they realized bid had an abcess-it was deep in his foot, and they had to drill and drain it.
i bet that's what they find here.

at any rate, too often people think a horse who has won by many is just so much better and is completely unbeatable, regardless of physical issues, surface questions, etc as we can see, that's not the case.

[phystech]

It's days like this that make me sick to be a horse owner.

I'm extremely disappointed to see that Ricky didn't realize every horse owners or trainers dream - to win the Triple Crown.

It disgusts me to see the crap written about him based on sound bites from the maggot media. It further disgusts me to see the venom spewed by the so called "fans" of the sport who cheer Big Brown's loss.

If Cannon were so lucky as to have a tri-crown horse for DT Stable next year, would we be so lucky as to escape the microscope of the doubting fans? Of course not - the media and the "fans" would find something to hate about us.

If I can have a $5k claimer that wins an N1X and hear wails of "they must have cheated" when I won.... it can just be a brutal sport no matter what you do.

I wanted to see a Triple Crown winner today, I wanted to see my friend win the Triple Crown today, and I wanted to see racing take a step forward today. At the end of the day, I'm left with an empty bag - I haven't felt so disappointed since I dropped a slip on a $32k claimer that fractured a knee, broke down and all I ended up with was an empty halter and a bill to kill the horse after the race.....

[ArlJim78]

how does racing take a step forward with a triple crown winner? will someone explain that?

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

how does racing take a step forward with a triple crown winner? will someone explain that?

I cant explain it. Wishful thinking i guess. But i also can't understand how Nascar really took off with the death of a racing legend in its most prominent race.
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[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

how does racing take a step forward with a triple crown winner? will someone explain that?

i have no idea. unless the tc winner is a gelding who runs for six more years and people go to the track to see him in action.
i mean, does the nhl get new fans AFTER the stanley cup? no. everyone knows the red wings won-but casual fans will remain so, just like people who pay attention to college b'ball long enough to fill out a bracket, or the nfl long enough to go to a superbowl party.

[phystech]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

how does racing take a step forward with a triple crown winner? will someone explain that?

Because it draws the fans interest, it draws the media interest, and all of that helps the sport. This horse would be the toast of the town, the media darling, the fan's choice..... if..... and it didn't happen. And instead we have abunch of assholes that will ask if he should have run with the quarter crack, or if the lack of the "shot' was the cause.......


Can u imagine the interest in the Travers if he'd won and run? Or the match of an undefeated TC winner against Curlin in the BC Classic?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by phystech

Because it draws the fans interest, it draws the media interest, and all of that helps the sport. This horse would be the toast of the town, the media darling, the fan's choice..... if..... and it didn't happen. And instead we have abunch that assholes that will aks if he should have run with the quarter crack, or if the lack of the "shot' was the cause.......


Can u imagine the interest in the Travers if he'd won and run? Or the match of an undefeated TC winner against Curlin in the BC Classic?

only those who follow the sport would get excited about a curlin/brown match up. all those people today only knew a tc was on the line, and if they saw him win they could say they were there to see it. but i bet if you go and ask 100 people about a curlin/brown match up, you'd get a blank stare followed by 'who?'. most of the folks who go to the derby/preakness/belmont races only go for the spectacle. they put a few bucks down based on a name, the silks, or their lucky number. look how many bet big truck at churchill because they confused him with big brown. then those in md and ny bet the derby winner. that's all they know, and it doesn't stick with them. hell, most people can't pick the president out of a line up, and you think they're going to remember a horse?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by phystech

Because it draws the fans interest, it draws the media interest, and all of that helps the sport. This horse would be the toast of the town, the media darling, the fan's choice..... if..... and it didn't happen. And instead we have abunch that assholes that will aks if he should have run with the quarter crack, or if the lack of the "shot' was the cause.......


Can u imagine the interest in the Travers if he'd won and run? Or the match of an undefeated TC winner against Curlin in the BC Classic?

Tom,
media attention now IS negative. That is what I have been saying all along. That the mainstream media covers every event looking for an issue to make into a story. They cover all events like that and horseracing isnt immune to it. When the supposed house guys like Moss and Bailey make statements like they have made after the derby and today what can we expect. What if he won the race and went lame afterwards? then the media would be talking about how they must have doped him up to get him through the race. Or if they decide to retire him after winning? What good is that? Horseracing should learn from baseball. Just ignore the bad publicity and move on like nothing happened. Look at all the bad stuff that has happened to that sport and yet they roll right along.

[phystech]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Tom,
media attention now IS negative. That is what I have been saying all along. That the mainstream media covers every event looking for an issue to make into a story. .

Yep - you couldn't be more correct. The negative media will find something to pick apart about every thing.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by phystech

It's days like this that make me sick to be a horse owner.

I'm extremely disappointed to see that Ricky didn't realize every horse owners or trainers dream - to win the Triple Crown.

It disgusts me to see the crap written about him based on sound bites from the maggot media. It further disgusts me to see the venom spewed by the so called "fans" of the sport who cheer Big Brown's loss.

If Cannon were so lucky as to have a tri-crown horse for DT Stable next year, would we be so lucky as to escape the microscope of the doubting fans? Of course not - the media and the "fans" would find something to hate about us.

If I can have a $5k claimer that wins an N1X and hear wails of "they must have cheated" when I won.... it can just be a brutal sport no matter what you do.

I wanted to see a Triple Crown winner today, I wanted to see my friend win the Triple Crown today, and I wanted to see racing take a step forward today. At the end of the day, I'm left with an empty bag - I haven't felt so disappointed since I dropped a slip on a $32k claimer that fractured a knee, broke down and all I ended up with was an empty halter and a bill to kill the horse after the race.....

Easy Tom, it will be ok. The guy won the Derby and Preakness, he is doing ok. But part of sports and competition is rooting for the teams and people that you like and rooting against the ones you dont like. Personally I have nothing against Dutrow. I actually feel kind of bad for him (because i know he will second guess himself forever) but some of the other connections (mostly guys that arent in the limelight) talked so much that it is hard not to root against them. And i'm sure that if we had a TC contender that Scavs would be a huge media target but that's the way it goes...

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Easy Tom, it will be ok. The guy won the Derby and Preakness, he is doing ok. But part of sports and competition is rooting for the teams and people that you like and rooting against the ones you dont like. Personally I have nothing against Dutrow. I actually feel kind of bad for him (because i know he will second guess himself forever) but some of the other connections (mostly guys that arent in the limelight) talked so much that it is hard not to root against them. And i'm sure that if we had a TC contender that Scavs would be a huge media target but that's the way it goes...

I was actually thinking after the race today that next year when things are serious, if I would be allowed to be interviewed, I could have some fun, freestyle some answers.

Instad of "babe" I would say "Yo"

What up Yo

Take it easy yo

I do'nt know the answer to that, yo

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

I was actually thinking after the race today that next year when things are serious, if I would be allowed to be interviewed, I could have some fun, freestyle some answers.

Instad of "babe" I would say "Yo"

What up Yo

Take it easy yo

I do'nt know the answer to that, yo

Told you about the racing Gods...you got me yesterday and Dutrow got himself today.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

I was actually thinking after the race today that next year when things are serious, if I would be allowed to be interviewed, I could have some fun, freestyle some answers.

Instad of "babe" I would say "Yo"

What up Yo

Take it easy yo

I do'nt know the answer to that, yo

Cant wait to see the sandals in the turf Club

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Cant wait to see the sandals in the turf Club

So if you go to a beach, do you have a panic attack if a dude that is barefoot walks by?

2ndly, in regards to the racing gods, I do believe in them now, and will now refrain from all future enthusiam, ONLY PESSISM from here on out.....

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by phystech

It's days like this that make me sick to be a horse owner.

I'm extremely disappointed to see that Ricky didn't realize every horse owners or trainers dream - to win the Triple Crown.

It disgusts me to see the crap written about him based on sound bites from the maggot media. It further disgusts me to see the venom spewed by the so called "fans" of the sport who cheer Big Brown's loss.

If Cannon were so lucky as to have a tri-crown horse for DT Stable next year, would we be so lucky as to escape the microscope of the doubting fans? Of course not - the media and the "fans" would find something to hate about us.

If I can have a $5k claimer that wins an N1X and hear wails of "they must have cheated" when I won.... it can just be a brutal sport no matter what you do.

I wanted to see a Triple Crown winner today, I wanted to see my friend win the Triple Crown today, and I wanted to see racing take a step forward today. At the end of the day, I'm left with an empty bag - I haven't felt so disappointed since I dropped a slip on a $32k claimer that fractured a knee, broke down and all I ended up with was an empty halter and a bill to kill the horse after the race.....

Cheating Trashtalker stepped in poo. You didn't have to look very hard to find something to hate about this guy. Most of us have been taught to respect our competition. The reason our parents and coaches taught us that is because things can just go wrong(even if you think you are the best.) Even if you cheat(which really is the main reason he has the confidence to make fun of his competition,) you can get beat. I don't know how you could feel sorry for this guy. This guy is trashtalkin' royalty.