Camera Angles on ESPN

[phystech]

Agree - they need to cut the artsy ****.....just show the track feed and then give me the cute stuff on the replays...

[AeWingnut]

is this why TVG and HRTV aren't showing the races.. so ESPN can
"lets bring in the XFL cam"

I'll just watch it on the internet

what a bunch of idiots
always going to non-horse racing people to promote the sport

[ArlJim78]

one second you're looking at the pan view, then a quick cut to the view from space, then they are heading right at you, next the moving truck shot for about 3 seconds. makes your head spin. they have the right ingredients but they need a director that knows how to watch races. they should have one live race structure, and then a different one for replays.

I'm hoping they show Big Brown bucking in the stall during the far turn of the 3rd. Maybe show P. Diddy posing like a douchebag at the sixteenth pole.

[SundayStar]

hopefully they don't go spastic like this with the belmont.

[Travis Stone]

Remember that ESPN is not here to present a simulcast feed. They are here for entertainment. Anyone outside of our horse racing circle enjoys the cool angles, cuts and unique perspectives.

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Remember that ESPN is not here to present a simulcast feed. They are here for entertainment. Anyone outside of our horse racing circle enjoys the cool angles, cuts and unique perspectives.

Yep, give a 14 to 23 year old a video recording device these days, and they'll likely produced similarly flavored work. For whatever reason, that's the preferred style at the moment, and has been for a few years....

[MaTH716]

Way to foucus on a run away winner guys, Nobody cares about battles for 2nd and 3rd!

My mind is exploding.

And I see an industry guy is defending this debacle. Shocking.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Remember that ESPN is not here to present a simulcast feed. They are here for entertainment. Anyone outside of our horse racing circle enjoys the cool angles, cuts and unique perspectives.

I agree on it being entertainment but so many cuts as to make you nauseous doesn't seem the best way to go. I feel like I'm watching the opening battle scene of Gladiator.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Remember that ESPN is not here to present a simulcast feed. They are here for entertainment. Anyone outside of our horse racing circle enjoys the cool angles, cuts and unique perspectives.

we all would enjoy the cool angles, cuts and unique perspectives if they were shown at the proper time, which is after the race is over.

You guys dont play enough video games.

This is how I feel when I attempt to play,
become completely disoriented,
and then I am immediately blown up by
some teenager who plays the controller
like a master typist on a keyboard.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Remember that ESPN is not here to present a simulcast feed. They are here for entertainment. Anyone outside of our horse racing circle enjoys the cool angles, cuts and unique perspectives.

you give them far too much credit. people outside of horse racing circle deserve better, just like we do. the people outside wouldn't know the difference anyway.

[Travis Stone]

Maybe it's just our ignorance to what others think of the game? Or what they're looking for?

I haven't seen a race yet, so let me toss that in here, however, this dying need for the typical pan shot by racing fans on ESPN is lame.

How about this -- no viewers -- no ESPN -- then how would we feel? There would be no camera angles to show.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

you give them far too much credit. people outside of horse racing circle deserve better, just like we do. the people outside wouldn't know the difference anyway.

I just got to the booth and will watch the fifth race and see what it's all about.

I just know that a friend of mine who has a brother not at all interested in racing made comments about how he could get into it more with the cool camera angles they showed for Dubai's racing coverage.

[Merlinsky]

I actually wasn't having a problem with it until they allowed a drunken 5 year old hold the camera during that winner's circle photo op. One word...Steadycam.

Oh wait did I say drunken 5 year old? I meant Hank Goldberg.

[Stall Mucker]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Remember that ESPN is not here to present a simulcast feed. They are here for entertainment. Anyone outside of our horse racing circle enjoys the cool angles, cuts and unique perspectives.

Agreed. Moreover, the Belmont and other big race TV days are bid by ESPN, ABC etc. They will bring all of the resources allowed by budget and they will use all resources. Most tracks can only afford the basic pan shots, talent cams, gate shots, a ground level shot here and there and of course the tower shots that are usually used for steward looks and to find horses on those foggy days. If race tracks had larger TV budgets I'm sure we would see more "artsy" cuts and angles.

[CSC]

The Breeders Cup once had those side by side pan shots that many didn't like, but I didn't mind it. I'm all for new technology if it gives fans something new to look at. Ie. Trackus...ect...

[cowgirlintexas]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I'm hoping they show Big Brown bucking in the stall during the far turn of the 3rd. Maybe show P. Diddy posing like a douchebag at the sixteenth pole.

Just saw them show B.B buckin in the stall..(just gettin home) Wow! Is he ready to annihilate this field or what?!!

[cowgirlintexas]

WTF was that? All of a sudden a golf game/commercial?