Lakers vs. Celtics prediction thread

[alysheba4]

i am blowing smoke.......but, remember....it boston when kobe gets butchered and hacked they dont call it, he goes to the line 6 times?? in los angeles you accidently brush up against him and he is shooting 2. thats one of the big problems with the n.b.a i.m.o.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by alysheba4

i am blowing smoke.......but, remember....it boston when kobe gets butchered and hacked they dont call it, he goes to the line 6 times?? in los angeles you accidently brush up against him and he is shooting 2. thats one of the big problems with the n.b.a i.m.o.

Yeah the flesh missing from the chest of PP must have been an illusion....KB simply sucked last night under the pressure of decent team defense. Stop whining and bring a better game otherwise this will be a short final. The refs are the refs as long as San Antonio isn't playing it will even out..

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Yeah the flesh missing from the chest of PP must have been an illusion....KB simply sucked last night under the pressure of decent team defense. Stop whining and bring a better game otherwise this will be a short final. The refs are the refs as long as San Antonio isn't playing it will even out..

I would look at Kobe's track record and rethink that he sucked because of pressure. Kobe was just off plain and simple, "pressure" does not get to him. The guy is as clutch as they come, he just wasn't feeling it last night.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

I would look at Kobe's track record and rethink that he sucked because of pressure. Kobe was just off plain and simple, "pressure" does not get to him. The guy is as clutch as they come, he just wasn't feeling it last night.

Reading is fundamental. Mr. ICU said "the pressure of team defense"..

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Reading is fundamental. Mr. ICU said "the pressure of team defense"..

Understanding is fundamental as well. I get that he said pressure of team defense, but that doesn't affect Kobe. His shots weren't dropping, I don't care what defense they had, it doesn't stop Kobe. The only thing that stops Kobe is when his shot is off, NO DEFENSE can stop the guy and it has been shown.

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Understanding is fundamental as well. I get that he said pressure of team defense, but that doesn't affect Kobe. His shots weren't dropping, I don't care what defense they had, it doesn't stop Kobe. The only thing that stops Kobe is when his shot is off, NO DEFENSE can stop the guy and it has been shown.

He took very bad shots 1st quarter.
Hogged the ball late.

I expect him to right the boat if this season is
any indication of how much he has learned.
He did not get the easy jumpers he is used to.
And he did not get to the hole. I expect that
to change.
As far as Odom. He is your 3rd or 4th guy.
If he has to be a go to guy, or your 2nd guy,
he is a complete and utter choke. He is a talented,
dumb player. A great junk man that can pop a jumper.
He needs to clean up after Kobe, Gasol and Fisher
shoot the ball. And then finish on breaks. Thats what
Odom is best at imo. He will not win games for you
handling the ball trying to produce on his own.
Especially late in games. And he needs to rebound
by hanging on the the flppn ball. His hands were horrible
last night.
Another interesting change was Vuya (whatever)
handling the point duty when Fisher was in, in the 4th.
They need to get Fischer his jumper. He cant get his
own at point. Has to come off a pass.

And finally, even though Gasol did not have a great game,
the Lakers would not be in this spot without him. He has
helped on rebounding, defense, and scoring. Praise Memphis.

[King Glorious]

It's interesting the way people view these games. I keep hearing that this game was not typical of Kobe. To an extent, that's true. But then again, consider that he's played Boston three times this year and he's now shot 9-21, 6-25, and 9-26. That's a total of 24 of 72, 33.3%. As bad as he shot yesterday, he actually RAISED his percentage against them this year. Now, he's a great player and I do expect him to be better but last night wasn't as atypical as many people think it was. I'm reading about rim tricks and such. Amazing. As was pointed out, they do switch sides at halftime. I guess it could be possible that the entire arena emptied out at halftime and nobody noticed the leprechauns adjusting the rims during the break. The Lakers shot 41.6% from the field last night. Let's see. They shot 42.2% when they played in Boston earlier this season so maybe the rim tricks theory has some merit. Wait, wait. I'm reading that they shot 35.4% against the Celtics when they played in LA. There goes that theory.

So now, Boston has played the Lakers three times and won by 13, 19, and 10. Garnett has went 20-11, 22-12, and 24-13 against them. Pierce has gone 20-33-22. Allen has gone 18-19-19. The Celtics have held them under 43% shooting all three times and outrebounded them by 5,8, and 13. Yet last night was simply a lucky win for them because they toyed with the rims and because Kobe won't continue to shoot like that.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

I would look at Kobe's track record and rethink that he sucked because of pressure. Kobe was just off plain and simple, "pressure" does not get to him. The guy is as clutch as they come, he just wasn't feeling it last night.

If Pothead doesn't get a lot more rebounds and inside points, then it's not gunna happen for the Lakers. You already saw that if KOBE slashes to the basket, then they aren't gunna call fouls on the Celts. So, it's Lamar and Gasol getting their act together, or else it's gunna be Green. There had to be a huge discrepancy in foul shots per team. 4 out of the 7 games are gunna be there. So, they get the 2 inside players to step up, or it's gunna be ugly.

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

If Pothead doesn't get a lot more rebounds and inside points, then it's not gunna happen for the Lakers. You already saw that if KOBE slashes to the basket, then they aren't gunna call fouls on the Celts. So, it's Lamar and Gasol getting their act together, or else it's gunna be Green. There had to be a huge discrepancy in foul shots per team. 4 out of the 7 games are gunna be there. So, they get the 2 inside players to step up, or it's gunna be ugly.

I was saying this to myself before the game, and even more now. DO NOT play Luke Walton, instead let Trevor Ariza get his minutes and put his ass on Pierce. Ariza is capable of shutting Pierce down, he needs to be in these games!

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

If Pothead doesn't get a lot more rebounds and inside points, then it's not gunna happen for the Lakers. You already saw that if KOBE slashes to the basket, then they aren't gunna call fouls on the Celts. So, it's Lamar and Gasol getting their act together, or else it's gunna be Green. There had to be a huge discrepancy in foul shots per team. 4 out of the 7 games are gunna be there. So, they get the 2 inside players to step up, or it's gunna be ugly.

35 free throws by BOS, 28 by LAL, and two of Boston's were by Walter after the Lakers fouled intentionally. So 33-28. I wouldn't call that a huge discrepancy.

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

35 free throws by BOS, 28 by LAL, and two of Boston's were by Walter after the Lakers fouled intentionally. So 33-28. I wouldn't call that a huge discrepancy.

It's cool to foul Kobe twice, do it once get called for it, then continue on and foul him even harder 2 seconds later after the whistle already blew and the refs let it slide.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by docicu3

Yeah the flesh missing from the chest of PP must have been an illusion....KB simply sucked last night under the pressure of decent team defense. Stop whining and bring a better game otherwise this will be a short final. The refs are the refs as long as San Antonio isn't playing it will even out..

...... p.p. that whole wheel chair act was great

[IrishofNDMan]

It would be nice to get a few calls. How many calls can go the Celtics way??

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

It would be nice to get a few calls. How many calls can go the Celtics way??

I agree that we've gotten a bunch of calls tonight, but that will be more than made up for when the series goes to L.A., at which point Kobe will go to the line whenever breathed on.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I agree that we've gotten a bunch of calls tonight

Ateam I thought you were a Timberwolves fan?
Way back? Maybe I mistake you for someone else.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Ateam I thought you were a Timberwolves fan?
Way back? Maybe I mistake you for someone else.

Long story, but after a while, I couldn't bring myself to support idiots like Taylor and McHale anymore. It was something I hated doing, but being about as close to Minneapolis as I am to Mars made it a little easier. Still wish the fans the best though.

Originally Posted by alysheba4

...... p.p. that whole wheel chair act was great

I was crying.
It was a Willis Reed moment.

I thought acting was the realm of Los Angeles.

Lakers have no energy.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Lakers have no energy.

I think that's pretty typical when the opposition is shooting that well, and the whistle keeps getting blown constantly.

[docicu3]

Okay here's the most important sequence so far the Lakers have a little streak going do they build on it do the Celts bitch slap them to a middle double digit lead again. As soon as the defense slacked even a foot the whole thing changed. Look for a healthy dose of PP and swarming defense again. Let's see if Kobe wants to drive down low to pick up fouls worthy of being sent to the line instead if the BS jump shot game he's been content with.