Zenyatta- 103 Beyer

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Hey man, everyone's doin' it

[SCUDSBROTHER]

I have never thought that Zenyatta looked like Azeri. I always thought she looked much better than Azeri. Zenyatta has always looked like she is a male running against females. Too big and strong for them. She had no pace to chase, and it made no difference at all. To me, she is getting better, and stronger. This would be like a Tranny getting her T shots.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I have never thought that Zenyatta looked like Azeri. I always thought she looked much better than Azeri. Zenyatta has always looked like she is a male running against females. Too big and strong for them. She had no pace to chase, and it made no difference at all. To me, she is getting better, and stronger. This would be like a Tranny getting her T shots.

run her against the boys next, i feel a career top coming.

[PSH]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I have never thought that Zenyatta looked like Azeri. I always thought she looked much better than Azeri. Zenyatta has always looked like she is a male running against females. Too big and strong for them. She had no pace to chase, and it made no difference at all. To me, she is getting better, and stronger. This would be like a Tranny getting her T shots.

There was a filly out here in California a few years ago who was big and strong and her name was Manistique. I really really liked her and on her best day she could run really really big. However, in the end she was too inconsistent to be considered really top flight. Its still early for Zenyatta but it would be nice to see her shipped to the SPA this summer.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by PSH

There was a filly out here in California a few years ago who was big and strong and her name was Manistique. I really really liked her and on her best day she could run really really big. However, in the end she was too inconsistent to be considered really top flight. Its still early for Zenyatta but it would be nice to see her shipped to the SPA this summer.

I think the only races Manistique (coincidentally also trained by John Shireffs) ever lost were outside CA. She was really horrendous elsewhere. Of course, having to run against horses like Banshee Breeze instead of the typical CA pasties will do that for your overall record. She was also a horrendous producer.

At least Zenyatta has got the road trip thing handled.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I think the only races Manistique (coincidentally also trained by John Shireffs) ever lost were outside CA. She was really horrendous elsewhere. Of course, having to run against horses like Banshee Breeze instead of the typical CA pasties will do that for your overall record. She was also a horrendous producer.

At least Zenyatta has got the road trip thing handled.

solid analogy, some horses dont ship that well, take Sky Beauty for example, when running against NYRA patsies she was awsome ( ) but when shipping she fell apart.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

solid analogy, some horses dont ship that well, take Sky Beauty for example, when running against NYRA patsies she was awsome ( ) but when shipping she fell apart.

She shipped once....right?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

She shipped once....right?

No. Twice.

She lost perhaps her toughest race, the '93 BC Distaff at SA aside from her horrendous '94 effort at Churchill.

Hollywood Wildcat, Paseana, Re Toss, and Dispute finished in front of her that day.

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I have never thought that Zenyatta looked like Azeri. I always thought she looked much better than Azeri. Zenyatta has always looked like she is a male running against females. Too big and strong for them. She had no pace to chase, and it made no difference at all. To me, she is getting better, and stronger. This would be like a Tranny getting her T shots.

Looked as in her physical size or the way she runs races?
Azeri ran away from horses. This big gal waits for exhaustion to set in.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Looked as in her physical size or the way she runs races?
Azeri ran away from horses. This big gal waits for exhaustion to set in.

crazy comment, she is moving very fast into slow fractions, there is no fall apart in her efforts, she is winning the way closers are supposed to lose.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Here is an article about Zenyatta at drf.com. It says her next start will be in the $300,000 Grade I Vanity at Hollywood Park on July 5th. And as expected, it says that the major goal for the year will be the BC Distaff.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/95123.html

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Here is an article about Zenyatta at drf.com. It says her next start will be in the $300,000 Grade I Vanity at Hollywood Park on July 5th. And as expected, it says that the major goal for the year will be the BC Distaff.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/95123.html

Too bad that only leaves three weeks for the Go For Wand which makes it less likely she ships in for that. And I think Tiago would be more likely to ship out for the Whitney if they were shipping Zenyatta as well. I wonder if they will just skip the Del Mar meet with her since no one seems to like that surface.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Too bad that only leaves three weeks for the Go For Wand which makes it less likely she ships in for that. And I think Tiago would be more likely to ship out for the Whitney if they were shipping Zenyatta as well. I wonder if they will just skip the Del Mar meet with her since no one seems to like that surface.

Fair point, but I think Tiago has proven he prefers a traditional dirt surface over synthetics. Maybe they pass on the Hollywood Gold Cup in favor of the Whitney with him?