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Old 05-31-2008, 04:04 PM
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If the stewards were to announce their decision and reasoning, it would show the perception as they are 'behind' their decision. I think it would be great for them to say "We DQ'ed because of this very incident"

But I think the MAIN thing is just consistency, which I think they 'try' to accomplish.
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:12 PM
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Getting an explanation for ANY decision is a good thing.

I think if the Stews give their reasoning, it may clear things up with the betting public and some of the rancor aimed at them may (or may not) be tempered. It will also help some of the newer (or less hardcore) horseplayers to understand the game and they possibly won't be as turned off to the game if they are on the wrong end of a dq. They will have to find another reason to blame the track for putting one over on them.
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:17 PM
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it should be mandatory that the decisions are explained in a written statement
keeping things out in the open is the best way. i feel they owe it to the players.
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:18 PM
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i'll stick with the idea that a transcript of the stewards discussion should be available.

that way they don't need to explain anything. it's already there in the open air.

what is the argument against this?
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:23 PM
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also, i think you would find that the decisions would become more consistent as a result of having to explain them. i'm sure of it.
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:25 PM
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also, i think you would find that the decisions would become more consistent as a result of having to explain them. i'm sure of it.
Exactly. maybe they will hear their reasoning outloud. It gives a sense of ownership and responsibility if they were to grab the microphone and explain their reasoning....
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:40 PM
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i'll stick with the idea that a transcript of the stewards discussion should be available.

that way they don't need to explain anything. it's already there in the open air.

what is the argument against this?
Great stuff guys! Keep it up. BTW a written explanation of all rulings is available by reading the stewards minutes which are available at www.chrb.ca.gov

Thanks so much.

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Old 05-31-2008, 11:46 PM
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Great stuff guys! Keep it up. BTW a written explanation of all rulings is available by reading the stewards minutes which are available at www.chrb.ca.gov

Thanks so much.

V
I had no idea they were published.

I wish we had what the Hong Kong Jockey Club has..... one main site for all results, all incidents reports, everything.

I know it would be a lot of work to get something like that going though.

In the meantime, having a link on Cal Racing or Equibase..... somewhere! I'm just wondering how many other people had no clue that this was available.
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:03 PM
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i'll stick with the idea that a transcript of the stewards discussion should be available.

that way they don't need to explain anything. it's already there in the open air.

I agree with this approach...
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Old 06-07-2008, 12:30 PM
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Vic,

The 2nd at Belmont today is a prime example. Jock wanted to object, but no outrider to lodge it with, race was made official very quickly, before he got back to call the stewards, so nothing allowed.

The stewards should have at least looked at it, or at very least, explained why they wouldn't allow the objection to be lodged (especially since the outrider that was supposed to be there, wasn't in the 1st turn, to note that a jock wanted to object.. which is something that Jerry Bailey caught right away and noted on tv).

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