Better Sire

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

The chances that any of them will sire a Derby winner is very slim IMO.

first samuari has the potential to be a sire of SIRES.... A SUPER SIRE

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

first samuari has the potential to be a sire of SIRES.... A SUPER SIRE

You're funny.

[Linny]

If the question is about who will have the first runner in the Derby then you need to look at who owns/trains alot of the colts by the 4 sires. Any sire that Todd Pletcher, for example buys is more likely to be represented in the Derby than a sire he doesn't buy.
I have not really read up on what trainers have shown interest in the offspring of the 4 stallions mentioned.

[blackthroatedwind]

There isn't much interest in Smarty Jones from what I hear.

[Linny]

Some little tiny part of me (my heart?) would like Smarty to be a good sire but he was not well received and that is rarely a good sign.
I remember hoping that Coronado's Quest would be a top sire. He had the pedigree and conformation etc. I asked a few trainers about the CQ's they had at 2, and they were all less than thrilled. Those trainers were all correct.

[The Bid]

They all stink, Ghostzapper is probably the only logical choice. The others will have to get very lucky to have a classic style horse.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You're funny.

why ? giants causeway is great... first sam, brings speed.....

i'd take first samurai over any of the other 3 named

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

why ? giants causeway is great... first sam, brings speed.....

i'd take first samurai over any of the other 3 named

He wasn't much horse?

[hockey2315]

agree with others that Ghostzapper is the only one who will be a very good sire. . .

[Danzig]

jcs, only about one in 10 horses make it as a sire. odds are not in first samurais favor. and yeah, he's at claiborne, and they'll do their best to make him. but don't forget that monarchos, second fastest derby winner ever, also stood there. he's not there anymore.
as for the giant, he's getting racehorses, but that doesn't necessarily translate into being a sire of sires. it wasn't that long ago that they were asking why storm cat wasn't proving to be a sire of sires.