Better Sire

[Cannon Shell]

The SJ babies are not impressive as a group. I have a hard time believing that AA will be a good sire, FS may be a good market sire but I dont know if he will sire classic type horses and GZ, who knows though Stronach has done very well making stallions.

[Linny]

I'd give GZ the best chance as I'm sure he was bred to plenty of Adena's good mares. He seems to get alot of route horses even when the pedigree says "miler."
I agree about FS being less likley to sire classic types, but he is by Giant's Causeway and if the mare has some stamina...

I don't think that either AA or SJ will be all that good.

[jpops757]

Originally Posted by Linny

I'd give GZ the best chance as I'm sure he was bred to plenty of Adena's good mares. He seems to get alot of route horses even when the pedigree says "miler."
I agree about FS being less likley to sire classic types, but he is by Giant's Causeway and if the mare has some stamina...

I don't think that either AA or SJ will be all that good.

I agree about 1st Sam. A good Dynaformer mare should add stamina and also turf to go along with the win early results that did. I still think his Giants Causway will help his stamina.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The SJ babies are not impressive as a group. I have a hard time believing that AA will be a good sire, FS may be a good market sire but I dont know if he will sire classic type horses and GZ, who knows though Stronach has done very well making stallions.

Impressive babies mean ZERO

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Impressive babies mean ZERO

Possibly true but non-impressive means a lot

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Possibly true but non-impressive means a lot

I am totally subjective on Smarty Jones. My heart is hoping he is a great sire. I believe he was a very fast horse and I believe his offspring will be great as well. Will see

[The Bid]

Having a heart in this game isnt a very good idea

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Having a heart in this game isnt a very good idea

It's ok I am prepared to lose

[hi_im_god]

i just got off the phone with lauren stitch and pedigree ann. so don't take what i say lightly. i have gravitas now.

that's right. check out the big swinging gravitas.

hypnotic, isn't it?

having considered all aspects this is my conclusion:

smarty jones retired to stud in august 2004. ghostzapper in june 2005. afleet alex in december 2005. first sam in july 2006.

i'll take the free square and book the first sam bets.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I am totally subjective on Smarty Jones. My heart is hoping he is a great sire. I believe he was a very fast horse and I believe his offspring will be great as well. Will see

I dont see greatness in his future but who knows.

[Bernardini]

I think EmpireMaker, Vindication, Mineshaft, Medaglia D'oro will strike before then ones you mentioned. imo.

[Bernardini]

and Bernardini ......