If anyone knows off the top of their head....

[slotdirt]

Let me really quickly run through the past 140 years of Belmont winners pp's I keep handy just for questions like these...

[hockey2315]

www.pedigreequery.com

[ateamstupid]

By golly, I think you're on to nothing!

By the way, the Wood has been a G-I for a while now.

[hi_im_god]

outside of 2yo stakes (someone else will need to look those up) you only have the fl derby, wood, blue grass, kentucky derby, and preakness available to provide grade 1 winner's this year.

that's a pretty small pool to be providing a "winner's" condition. i doubt there's been much of a trend there.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

outside of 2yo stakes (someone else wiill need to look those up) you only have the fl derby, wood, blue grass, kentucky derby, and preakness available to provide grade 1 winner's this year.

that's a pretty small pool to be providing a "winner's" condition. i doubt there's been much of a trend there.

Both Birdstone and Lemon Drop Kid's Grade I wins came at age 2.

When Tale of Ekati surges past Casino Drive in deep stretch to win, you can thank me.

[hockey2315]

I would put the odds of that exacta at about 1000-1

[Scav]

Originally Posted by justindew

Both Birdstone and Lemon Drop Kid's Grade I wins came at age 2.

When Tale of Ekati surges past Casino Drive in deep stretch to win, you can thank me.

At 2: Won Futurity S. -G1; 2nd Champagne S. -G1
At 3: Won Belmont S. -G1, Travers S. -G1; 2nd Jim Dandy S. -G2; 3rd Peter Pan S. -G2
At 4: Won Whitney H. -G1, Woodward S. -G1, Suburban H. -G2, Brooklyn H. -G2; 3rd Pimlico Special -G1

Those look like 3 year old and 3+ races to me for Lemon Drop Kid

[hockey2315]

I think he means before the Belmont. . . Not that this angle means anything whatsoever. . .

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Scav

At 2: Won Futurity S. -G1; 2nd Champagne S. -G1
At 3: Won Belmont S. -G1, Travers S. -G1; 2nd Jim Dandy S. -G2; 3rd Peter Pan S. -G2
At 4: Won Whitney H. -G1, Woodward S. -G1, Suburban H. -G2, Brooklyn H. -G2; 3rd Pimlico Special -G1

Those look like 3 year old and 3+ races to me for Lemon Drop Kid

Brilliant point. And totally irrelevant to the discussion. Well done.

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by justindew

Both Birdstone and Lemon Drop Kid's Grade I wins came at age 2.

When Tale of Ekati surges past Casino Drive in deep stretch to win, you can thank me.

IF that happens, I don't think the word surges would be accurate!

[justindew]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Let me really quickly run through the past 140 years of Belmont winners pp's I keep handy just for questions like these...

Really? I don't need a PhD in The Kentucky Derby to know it had been twelve million years since a horse won the Derby without a start at 2. Or ten-thousand years since a horse won with only three career starts.

But if you don't know, you don't know.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by justindew

Really? I don't need a PhD in The Kentucky Derby to know it had been twelve million years since a horse won the Derby without a start at 2. Or ten-thousand years since a horse won with only three career starts.

But if you don't know, you don't know.

Or three and a half weeks.

Neither here nor there, really.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Or three and a half weeks.

Neither here nor there, really.

HAD.