Perfect Drift in 18 minutes

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Jim you obviously haven't been reading the threads around here recently.
If you continue to suggest that one should wait until a race is drawn before you handicap it, you too will be called a "degenerate," and an "elitist," and an "a-hole."

Are trying to say that this horse hasnt been routinely overbet in his career? You might want to check out his pp's over the last few yrs. I made a HUGE score agianst him on the grass at KEE a few yrs ago. He took an incredible amount of stupid money.

In a case like PD, you really dont have to be a brain surgeaon to know he will take money....I am sorry if you cant grasp the fact that horses like him (and Lava Man) will continue to take money even though they are past their prime.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Are trying to say that this horse hasnt been routinely overbet in his career? You might want to check out his pp's over the last few yrs. I made a HUGE score agianst him on the grass at KEE a few yrs ago. He took an incredible amount of stupid money.

In a case like PD, you really dont have to be a brain surgeaon to know he will take money....I am sorry if you cant grasp the fact that horses like him (and Lava Man) will continue to take money even though they are past their prime.

We all know that Perfect Drift tends to hang, and has seemingly lacked (over the last few years) the will to win. That isn't exactly breaking news. Believe me, I have been accused of "bashing" this horse several times in the past for even mentioning these obvious facts.
Personally I have had a decent amount of success (at least by my standards) using Perfect Drift underneath in exactas and trifectas over the last few years.
Depending on what race he runs in next, he might be a good exotics add, or he might be a complete toss. I don't know that I agree with ArlJim that he'll be "winning races soon" but against the right field, with the right pace scenario, it is at least possible.
To me, the larger point is just that this horse could be running on any number of surfaces, at any number of distances, against any type of field in his next start. Those types of facts are typically helpful in determining who to bet on and who to toss.

[horseofcourse]

I have a feeling Mandella has liked what he's seen in this horse. I thought that race was an insane spot for his first out in 11 months, and it also appeared to me he ran pretty well. His run yesterday was already better than any he had last year.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by miraja2

We all know that Perfect Drift tends to hang, and has seemingly lacked (over the last few years) the will to win. That isn't exactly breaking news. Believe me, I have been accused of "bashing" this horse several times in the past for even mentioning these obvious facts.
Personally I have had a decent amount of success (at least by my standards) using Perfect Drift underneath in exactas and trifectas over the last few years.
Depending on what race he runs in next, he might be a good exotics add, or he might be a complete toss. I don't know that I agree with ArlJim that he'll be "winning races soon" but against the right field, with the right pace scenario, it is at least possible.
To me, the larger point is just that this horse could be running on any number of surfaces, at any number of distances, against any type of field in his next start. Those types of facts are typically helpful in determining who to bet on and who to toss.

I agree with ya and most of the time of course it is nuts to throw out a horse before his next start is determined....but in PD's case I think it's safe to say he wont offer value, unless he is once again racing way over his head. He has a long history of failing.