Disapointing '08 so far for...

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by MisterB

I am glad NRYA was happy he didn't run in the Preakness, but I am sure Frank could care less about a triple crown race he would have finished 2nd at best.

The race was won in a 100 Beyer so I'm not so sure about that. At the very least if he handled the distance he could have forced Big Brown to go several lengths faster.

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

The race was won in a 100 Beyer so I'm not so sure about that. At the very least if he handled the distance he could have forced Big Brown to go several lengths faster.

OK

[hockey2315]

There's no reason to believe that Harlem Rocker couldn't have won on Saturday. . . He would've won by just as many lengths (at least) if you took out Big Brown and put him in. . .

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

There's no reason to believe that Harlem Rocker couldn't have won on Saturday. . . He would've won by just as many lengths (at least) if you took out Big Brown and put him in. . .

As the great Ron Turcott said about Sham, "we'll really never know"

Even after KD easied up BB at the 1/16 pole, it was still one of the best final 1/4 times in Preakness History, so Frank made the right move. Maybe he could be a IEAH advisor too.

[CSC]

On the topic of a weak turf division, with Einstein being the top turf horse thus far this year and looking for a little competition. Some good news read today is that Sky Conqueror is back in training, this should add a little depth to the division.

[kgar311]

On the topic of Disappointing of '08, you have to belive Majestic Warrior is a huge one for Steinbrenner and Mott.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by CSC

On the topic of a weak turf division, with Einstein being the top turf horse thus far this year and looking for a little competition. Some good news read today is that Sky Conqueror is back in training, this should add a little depth to the division.

In the mile turf division, the Kipper is back from his BC Mile win and looking good - he beat Einstein, who really prefers longer, in the Mile at Keeneland.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

In the mile turf division, the Kipper is back from his BC Mile win and looking good - he beat Einstein, who really prefers longer, in the Mile at Keeneland.

Agreed Kip Deville is a real nice horse, I was more or less thinking of possible Arlington Million type races or extended distance turf races. With Tin Man, Showing Up retired and Jambalaya still on the sidelines an infusion of new blood would be a welcome change.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

In the mile turf division, the Kipper is back from his BC Mile win and looking good - he beat Einstein, who really prefers longer, in the Mile at Keeneland.

Yeah, except he's running two more times this year. I don't really count that as being "back".

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yeah, except he's running two more times this year. I don't really count that as being "back".

Well, you could say he's " back " on the shelf.

Personally I think Einstein is a better horse for what it's worth.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Well, you could say he's " back " on the shelf.

Personally I think Einstein is a better horse for what it's worth.

Really? At what distance? 8-8.5 furlong race kip beats Einstein 9 out of 10times. At 9f its a good race, but I'd still give the nod to KD.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Really? At what distance? 8-8.5 furlong race kip beats Einstein 9 out of 10times. At 9f its a good race, but I'd still give the nod to KD.

I don't agree. Kip Deville got the trip of a lifetime in both of his last two races. Now, Einstein had a decent trip in the Maker's Mark, but not as sweet as the winner's, and he lost by around a length. There are MANY scenerios where that order is reversed....and hardly one out of ten.

Sorry, I don't think Kip Deville is all that great. He's good but he's been a very lucky horse in some key races. You seem to be forgetting some relative clunkers he has run when he hasn't gotten an absolutely perfect trip.

Einstein's win at the Fair Grounds in 2007 is better than any race Kip Deville has ever run.