Big Brown and Winstrol....questions

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Am I the only one who got a laugh out of this?

I chortled..

[Danzig]

interesting to note however, that jones had to get eight belles tested for steroiods to quiet the rabble rousers, yet not a peep from the hordes about the derby winner running on the stuff.

[notyep59]

Originally Posted by Kasept

I chortled..

did you say "excuse me"? i snickered...then guffawed.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by notyep59

did you say "excuse me"? i snickered...then guffawed.

i tittered...followed by a snigger.

[The Bid]

Winstrol really wouldnt do anything for a mass or a strength gain, so I doubt very seriously it would move a horse up in the least. When used in body building its exclusive for cutting and reducing. You can get it for 5 bucks an amp, so no its not expensive. At the racetrack you can get it for about 50, so it becomes more expensive. Really the only steroids that could help a horse from a performance standpoint would be something like a Trenbolon Acetate. I would question if Equipoise even really helps a horse. The addition of steroids is probably is a big reason a lot of our horses bleed. I cannot imagine a shot of Winny, or EQ, or Deca, would really impact a horses performance.

If used correctly Winstrol is injected every 3-4 days in humans. In horses they pop them once a month with a big dose.

I believe Dutrow when he said his vet advised that he uses Stanazol, and he infact doesnt know what it does. It really doesnt do anything, makes them eat a little more and probably drop some water.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by The Bid

I believe Dutrow when he said his vet advised that he uses Stanazol, and he infact doesnt know what it does. It really doesnt do anything, makes them eat a little more and probably drop some water.

I don't believe Dutrow for a minute when he says that he doesn't know why Winstrol is given to his horses. However, assuming that the statement is true, it begs the question as to who's running the barn: Dutrow or his vets.

[The Bid]

What do you think Winstrol does? I dont think it does much of anything for a horse, if anything its just a big markup for the vet. If you pay 5 bucks for an amp and resell for 50-70 bucks thats pretty strong. If Dutrow has 70 in training and they all get 1 shot of Stanazol per month at track prices that vets hitting pretty good. You could make a very good living going around giving horses a shot of winstrol, its hard to believe a vet wouldnt recommend that shot. It wont do anything negative, very little, if any positive, and you make a killing.

[parsixfarms]

The trainers that we have used do not have their horses on a steady diet of steroids (mostly for fear of some of the side effects they have observed, particularly very aggressive behavior). That being said, my understanding is that they have typically used Winstrol - as suggested in the articles noted elsewhere in this thread - when a horse has lost weight or is off its feed, sometimes both.

[HaloWishingwell]

Dutrow already threw some of the trainers under the bus by saying in a NY paper that he knows trainers who give their horses Winstrol multiple amount of times a week. Now glancing at Dutrow's past I would say he is full of it if he wants us to believe he gives his horses just a dose a month.

[Danzig]

i would think that the saying that begins 'he who lives in a glass house...' would apply to rick dutrow. he's a many times over cheat. and if he cheats to win a claiming race, what will he do for all the marbles?