Biancone, cold with 2 year olds, my theory why

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Trainers like poly, gamblers (especially sheet users) are the ones that don't like it. They think it will make it too easy for everyone to handicap. That is really what is going on here. You don't need to be Nostradamus to see that. LOL.

There is no way plastic can be safer for horses than dirt. No way. And for as long as they try putting this junk on racetracks, they will tell you the problem with kick-back is "being worked on."

It's all about short-sightedness. Saving one or two days of racing when all good sense says it's too cold or frozen to race. Does it really matter if Turfway runs that Tuesday night card in late November?

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

THE REAL REASON ORACLE IS BASHING POLYTRACK IS OBVIOUS TO ANYONE. Figure it out rocket scientist, or should I say mad scientist. .

Umm, I really don't know what the "real reason" is that you are eluding to. I honestly don't. But I will make you an offer. Attend workouts with me some morning up here and I can ask some trainers in front of you what they think about it and you can hear it for yourself. I'm not making this stuff up as i go along.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Umm, I really don't know what the "real reason" is that you are eluding to. I honestly don't. But I will make you an offer. Attend workouts with me some morning up here and I can ask some trainers in front of you what they think about it and you can hear it for yourself. I'm not making this stuff up as i go along.

Michael Dickinson stands to make millions. He owns the material. His "Tapeta" is the best surface in the world. Matz, and everyone else love it and it will likely be the surface on all racetracks by the year 2010.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/horse...t-tracks_x.htm

Instead of the Polytrack used at Turfway, Fair Hill is turning to trainer Michael Dickinson, who has been manufacturing his own all-weather track surface for eight years — a concoction called Tapeta, a mix of sand, polyethylene fibers, polypropylene fibers, recycled rubber and wax.

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Michael Dickinson stands to make millions. He owns the material. His "Tapeta" is the best surface in the world. Matz, and everyone else love it and it will likely be the surface on all racetracks by the year 2010.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/horse...t-tracks_x.htm

Instead of the Polytrack used at Turfway, Fair Hill is turning to trainer Michael Dickinson, who has been manufacturing his own all-weather track surface for eight years — a concoction called Tapeta, a mix of sand, polyethylene fibers, polypropylene fibers, recycled rubber and wax.

And this affects me in what way? Last time I read he was one of those being considered in California but they chose a rival company to his and Polytrack's as well. I did read that Fair Hill installed his surface but I have not read about his company being chosen anywhere to install his surface.
Either way, who gives a ****?
My concerns are about the health of the breeding industry.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by oracle80

And this affects me in what way? Last time I read he was one of those being considered in California but they chose a rival company to his and Polytrack's as well. I did read that Fair Hill installed his surface but I have not read about his company being chosen anywhere to install his surface.
Either way, who gives a ****?
My concerns are about the health of the breeding industry.

And mine too... we have enough problems with unsound horses being bred.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

lol. Right, the project. Which project is that? The one where you don't show where you say you will be? The one where you are not a file clerk at H&H? Or cleaning up your room after school like you promised your Mother. That would be the one I'm guessing. Should I ask Kevin Votta about you?

Ask away. He allows us to post all we want on the computer set up for personal use as long as the work gets done and we don't post pictures of people or attack people personally and don't post on finalturn.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Ask away. He allows us to post all we want on the computer set up for personal use as long as the work gets done and we don't post pictures of people or attack people personally and don't post on finalturn.

You're a clown.

A week ago you were a $2,000 a race betting, law grad with a girlfriend setting up a meeting at Saratoga which you never showed for.

Now your a file clerking flunky sharing a one-bedroom with 4 of your closest friends.

On second thought, let Votta know I'll be calling HIS boss.

[slotdirt]

I wonder if Pillow Pants knows Listerfiend...

[sumitas]

I believe Dickinson has patented the process of wax coating sand. Therefore, if another company wins a bid to install, Dickinson still gets paid because they all use on-site wax coating of sand. Dickinson's patented process.

Originally Posted by sumitas

I believe Dickinson has patented the process of wax coating sand. Therefore, if another company wins a bid to install, Dickinson still gets paid because they all use on-site wax coating of sand. Dickinson's patented process.

Thats not true. I specifically read that california chose a company from which he got squat. His patent isnt the only patent out there on how to make the varieties of stuff. Look up the article, he was only getting paid on the patent if they chose Polytrack over his own company in which case he would have gotten it all. They chose neither and went with another company.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Thats not true. I specifically read that california chose a company from which he got squat. His patent isnt the only patent out there on how to make the varieties of stuff. Look up the article, he was only getting paid on the patent if they chose Polytrack over his own company in which case he would have gotten it all. They chose neither and went with another company.

Dickinson has the best stuff out there. It is called Tarpeta, but I believe Keeneland owns part of the company that puts down polytrack, so I doubt Tarpeta will ever see that track. Tarpeta though is likely to be used on many training tracks. One of the Belmont training tracks might get it. It is going to be very common in the future for training tracks to be synthetic and the main track dirt. This way you can train if you want on one and if you don't like it you can just work on the main track.

[Gander]

Speaking of dickinson when is the Rat Lobster running again? Arlington on Saturday?

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by boldruler

Dickinson has the best stuff out there. It is called Tarpeta, but I believe Keeneland owns part of the company that puts down polytrack, so I doubt Tarpeta will ever see that track. Tarpeta though is likely to be used on many training tracks. One of the Belmont training tracks might get it. It is going to be very common in the future for training tracks to be synthetic and the main track dirt. This way you can train if you want on one and if you don't like it you can just work on the main track.

There's a lot Dickinson talk here.

How well has Dickinson been doing since 2000? 2001? I thought so. His boys have been training on that material at his place. I haven't seen any speed from his horses in the past. Hasn't had any. Bellamy Road? Went to Zito, then was lights out for a race.

I'm sorry, but he's not winning, and his horse are training on it.