Big Brown, Big Red and IEAH

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Split Rock

IEAH
Secretariat ran 6 more times after his majestic Belmont win. It was important for the racing public to revel in his greatness for those final 4 months before he was whisked away to the breeding shed. It is already confirmed Big Brown will not race as a four year old. He needs to face Curlin in the Breeder's Cup Classic.

The IEAH group has been painted as a self absorbed, self important, lot, that cares only about being profitable. Allowing Big Brown the opportunity to face Curlin in a match up that has not been seen in racing since Easy Goer/Sunday Silence would help improve their tarnished image. Sports have been built on great showdowns. Ali/Frazier, Lakers/Celtics, Nicklaus/Palmer, Bruins/Canadians, etc. As a racing fan, the anticipation for said match up would be at an all time high. The IEAH group would certainly earn my respect for keeping Big Brown in the game through that big event.

I don't think IEAH gives two figs for what racing fans want. Like any conglomerate, they're in this to make money. Glory and adulation is great, but it doesn't buy things, so I doubt we'll see Big Brown after the Belmont.

Which is why, though I've been waiting to see a Triple Crown since the first Derby I can remember (1983), I'm so lukewarm on this one. I can't believe it. I know, I know, don't blame the horse for his connections, but if there's someone who cares even less what I think than IEAH does, it's Big Brown.

(Or maybe I'm just mad at myself for not forking out the $$ for reserved seats back in March. I'll be eating sour grapes while I'm smooshed in with 100,000 people in three weeks. 'Cause, lukewarm as I am, I know I'm still gonna go.)

[CSC]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

I don't think IEAH gives two figs for what racing fans want. Like any conglomerate, they're in this to make money. Glory and adulation is great, but it doesn't buy things, so I doubt we'll see Big Brown after the Belmont.

Which is why, though I've been waiting to see a Triple Crown since the first Derby I can remember (1983), I'm so lukewarm on this one. I can't believe it. I know, I know, don't blame the horse for his connections, but if there's someone who cares even less what I think than IEAH does, it's Big Brown.

(Or maybe I'm just mad at myself for not forking out the $$ for reserved seats back in March. I'll be eating sour grapes while I'm smooshed in with 100,000 people in three weeks. 'Cause, lukewarm as I am, I know I'm still gonna go.)

Then after he wins the Triple Crown because really I don't see anyone from that group that can beat him if he runs his race. It will be almost impossible to go to any message board because Big Brown will be proclaimed the greatest horse since Citation and or Secretariat. And that to me is just not right...Get the 'excuse my language' there is no other way to put it...barf bag ready gang.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by CSC

Then after he wins the Triple Crown because really I don't see anyone from that group that can beat him if he runs his race. It will be almost impossible to go to any message board because Big Brown will be proclaimed the greatest horse since Citation and or Secretariat. And that to me is just not right...Get the 'excuse my language' there is no other way to put it...barf bag ready gang.

Win or lose, I don't think he'll run after the Belmont. I can't imagine any way for his value to increase as a stud- I don't see running in any of the summer classics or in the BCC making any difference to his value.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Win or lose, I don't think he'll run after the Belmont. I can't imagine any way for his value to increase as a stud- I don't see running in any of the summer classics or in the BCC making any difference to his value.

Dutrow already said running a race like the Haskell would be pointless as it would do nothing for his value. He said if the horse is sound and the owners want to run him after the Belmont he would just run the Travers and BC Classic.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Dutrow already said running a race like the Haskell would be pointless as it would do nothing for his value. He said if the horse is sound and the owners want to run him after the Belmont he would just run the Travers and BC Classic.

Since they were going to put him on turf, they might figure he'll like poly, but I just don't see why they'd bother with the BCC as I don't think it'll increase his value any.

It'd be nice if they did run him after the Belmont, even for just two races, but I just doubt it.

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[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Since they were going to put him on turf, they might figure he'll like poly, but I just don't see why they'd bother with the BCC as I don't think it'll increase his value any.

It'd be nice if they did run him after the Belmont, even for just two races, but I just doubt it.

It's still worth $4 million to the winner and even if he loses it shouldn't hurt his value as they can blame the junk track. All they'd lose is the ability to call him an undefeated Triple Crown winner.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

It's still worth $4 million to the winner and even if he loses it shouldn't hurt his value as they can blame the junk track. All they'd lose is the ability to call him an undefeated Triple Crown winner.

That's a point, but I figure they'd weigh the injury possibility vs. $4 million and play it safe. I'd be happy to be wrong, though.