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Old 05-17-2008, 08:40 PM
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It seems like Casino Drive will never get close enough to Brown to actually get into a duel.

I hope it is a great race.
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:02 PM
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Jesus, the only guys missing from this thread are Harding and Cheswick.
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:31 PM
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now it's complete
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:37 PM
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Obvious is not clever.
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Old 05-17-2008, 10:54 PM
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I would never underestimate what distance breeding can do for a horse in a race like the Belmont. I mean Casino Drive has Better Than Honour and A.P. Indy as his grandsire...what more could you ask for?
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Old 05-17-2008, 11:05 PM
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I would never underestimate what distance breeding can do for a horse in a race like the Belmont. I mean Casino Drive has Better Than Honour and A.P. Indy as his grandsire...what more could you ask for?
Bold Ruler and Somthingroyal.
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Old 05-17-2008, 11:26 PM
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Bold Ruler and Somthingroyal.


LOL...Nice one!
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Old 05-17-2008, 11:34 PM
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I would never underestimate what distance breeding can do for a horse in a race like the Belmont. I mean Casino Drive has Better Than Honour and A.P. Indy as his grandsire...what more could you ask for?
How far will it move him up? How far is being by Boundary going to bring BB back to the field going 12fs?

If Casino Drive had more than a two race foundation the arguement for his pedigree moving him up on a 3 furlong stretch out would be stronger.

Big Brown has shown the ability to rate - switch off - and he responds with almost push button acceleration when asked.

While a case could be made, on naked pedigree analysis, that CD moves up 2 or 3 lengths and BB regresses 2 or 3 lengths .. the lack of racing foundation by CD and the way BB runs almost totally offsets the pedigree stuff.

No one in this crop has a race that makes them competitive with any of Big Brown's races. That's what the problem has been for BB's rivals throughout this series.

The time to take a negative stance against BB would have been in the Derby before he firmly established that he could switch off - rate wide - and still run to his best form at a classic distance.

It seems like people want to invent Casino Drive into a monster because he has the same mother as the hopeless Jazil and Rags To Riches. His two races don't match up to this hype.
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Old 05-18-2008, 12:00 AM
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The way Casino Drive is being talked up of late and leading up to The Belmont, Big Brown may be the distant second choice in the race.
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It seems like people want to invent Casino Drive into a monster because he has the same mother as the hopeless Jazil and Rags To Riches. His two races don't match up to this hype.

Yup.
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Old 05-18-2008, 04:40 AM
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Jesus, the only guys missing from this thread are Harding and Cheswick.
i don't know, looks to me like they're already here.
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Old 05-18-2008, 09:28 AM
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well, at least his avatar is kinda funny.
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Jesus, the only guys missing from this thread are Harding and Cheswick.
Oh my God.
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