TBV total blood volume

[docicu3]

Chuck EPO is not the answer to cheating of consequence. It takes way too long to take effect to a level that would actually influence oxygen delivery leading to performance enhancement. While the effect is not titratable....The avoidance of anaerobic metabolism or threshold is how they do it with designer meds that have markers that are unique to them by testing methods.
All they would have to do is change the molecule with one different chemical moiety (eg an extra carbon or hydroxyl group) and the authorities couldn't test for the drug. These are old concepts and why we love ya cause you don't mess with this garbage for your horses.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Didn't the Ledford duo ( Meadowlands harness trainer/driver) get caught with E.P.O. and Morphine? They went away for a while. Maybe Eric is around a little bit now. I heard Vladimir Cerin (in an interview at Santa Anita) say he took blood out, and then put it back in (a few days before a horse raced.) That was like in the early or mid 90's.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Didn't the Ledford duo ( Meadowlands harness trainer/driver) get caught with E.P.O. and Morphine? They went away for a while. Maybe Eric is around a little bit now. I heard Vladimir Cerin (in an interview at Santa Anita) say he took blood out, and then put it back in (a few days before a horse raced.) That was like in the early or mid 90's.

Lukas was accused of blood doping in the late 80's, early 90's. The way it was explained to me( a long time ago), it would be a great deal of trouble to do it for a horse because of the volume needed to possibly make a difference

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Lukas was accused of blood doping in the late 80's, early 90's. The way it was explained to me( a long time ago), it would be a great deal of trouble to do it for a horse because of the volume needed to possibly make a difference

Cerin has a hyperbaric oxygen chamber. He is into the oxygen. So, it makes sense that he would have been taking blood out n' putting it back in. Like I said, he admitted to doing it. All they did is ask him what he does to get his horses to run their best. They didn't ask him if he "blood doped." For some reason, he just started talking about it. He hardly says anything now. He will just talk about their last race trouble, or maybe about some surgery etc.

[sumitas]

Didn't Wygod secretly transport Sweetcatomine from the track in the middle of the night to some undisclosed location for this type of "treatment" ? She was retired soon after it became public knowledge as I recall.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...1s21horse.html

And remember Wild Desert and his unknown wherabouts for a couple of weeks ? I wonder what his connections were up to then ? Who was the trainer at the time ? It seems Richard Dutrow was, hmmmm.
http://www.racingandsports.com.au/ra....asp?NID=67018

Kinda makes you wonder what's goin on with Kip Deville with all that time off, somewhere, between races...hmmmm

[SCUDSBROTHER]

It's o.k. to do the hyperbaric chamber, but the connections of "Sweet" didn't want it to be known that they were taking her from the track to that place (up by Santa Barbara.) That was a mess. Wygod said something about racing somewhere else, but he is still here.