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Old 05-13-2008, 02:05 PM
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Here's one just for you AVery from the same site. .

4) A glimpse of things to come

I probably bend over a little too backwards in defending Jhonny Peralta, a guy I latched on to because he was able to hold his own in the majors at such a young age. It's sometimes sobering to realize that Peralta, with three whole seasons under his belt and parts of two others before that, won't turn even 26 until the end of this month. To "give up" on Jhonny Peralta would be foolhardy: he is over a year younger than the source of much wailing and gnashing, Brandon Phillips. Although never an Acutally Good defensive shortstop, he's a guy capable of putting up plus offensive numbers from a defensive-premium position, and as such can be a real asset. He is hitting poorly this season, but this distinguishes him in no way whatsoever from half his teammates.

However, I have seen the future of the Cleveland Indians at shortstop, and his name his Asdrubal Cabrera.

Now, Cabrera is one of the players who is actually more offensively inept to this point than Peralta. He is hitting an honest .194, and his slugging percentage is not simply anemic, but all but exsanguinated at .245. But Cabrera is even younger at 22, and Saturday made several outstanding plays at shortstop, including snaring a run-saving line drive that Peralta would not only not have reached, but I would have thought it perfectly defensible for him not to have reached. I would like to see an overhead shot of that play to see when Cabrera started moving, as it seems inconceivable that he waited until the batter made contact.

Cabrera, in the fine tradition of Venezuelan shortstops, wears #13. It fits him.

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( I did actually see his Vizquelian DP he turned in game 1 yesterday...flabbergasting!)
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Old 05-13-2008, 02:17 PM
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Here's one just for you AVery from the same site. .

4) A glimpse of things to come

I probably bend over a little too backwards in defending Jhonny Peralta, a guy I latched on to because he was able to hold his own in the majors at such a young age. It's sometimes sobering to realize that Peralta, with three whole seasons under his belt and parts of two others before that, won't turn even 26 until the end of this month. To "give up" on Jhonny Peralta would be foolhardy: he is over a year younger than the source of much wailing and gnashing, Brandon Phillips. Although never an Acutally Good defensive shortstop, he's a guy capable of putting up plus offensive numbers from a defensive-premium position, and as such can be a real asset. He is hitting poorly this season, but this distinguishes him in no way whatsoever from half his teammates.

However, I have seen the future of the Cleveland Indians at shortstop, and his name his Asdrubal Cabrera.

Now, Cabrera is one of the players who is actually more offensively inept to this point than Peralta. He is hitting an honest .194, and his slugging percentage is not simply anemic, but all but exsanguinated at .245. But Cabrera is even younger at 22, and Saturday made several outstanding plays at shortstop, including snaring a run-saving line drive that Peralta would not only not have reached, but I would have thought it perfectly defensible for him not to have reached. I would like to see an overhead shot of that play to see when Cabrera started moving, as it seems inconceivable that he waited until the batter made contact.

Cabrera, in the fine tradition of Venezuelan shortstops, wears #13. It fits him.

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( I did actually see his Vizquelian DP he turned in game 1 yesterday...flabbergasting!)


Very kind of you.





The only thing that bugs me is what I hear from Shapiro..and now this guy......that" he's an offensive player at a defensive position."




Which would be great if he could play defense.
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By the way...and not a point of argument......just wondered your opinion.

I think Hafner has had it...I really do.

What do you think?
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Old 05-13-2008, 02:38 PM
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By the way...and not a point of argument......just wondered your opinion.

I think Hafner has had it...I really do.

What do you think?
It's getting to the point where last year does not just look like a bad year/contract situation/minor ailments. In today's society, it simply makes me wonder if he simply came off substances last year and signed his contract and is clean now and we're seeing the results. I hope not...but at some point he has to do something. He is just bad right now.
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It's getting to the point where last year does not just look like a bad year/contract situation/minor ailments. In today's society, it simply makes me wonder if he simply came off substances last year and signed his contract and is clean now and we're seeing the results. I hope not...but at some point he has to do something. He is just bad right now.
My fear is when a "slump" last for over a year and he continually keeps making rookie mistakes at the plate....that it's not a slump for whatever the reason---I'm afraid I think he's had it.
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If the Cavaliers do not beat Boston tomorrow...it is over.







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Ah wonder war HoseGarden is??







































































10....Blowing up Gotti ( ror!!)


9....Solving Rubicks Joint ( double ror!!)


8....In Physics remedial school.....class taught by Professor Irwin Corey.


7....Applying for Bulls head coaching position.


6....Out filming Bellicheck....already denies knowing it was against the rules.


5....Making window pane out of acid rain


4....Fingers still stuck in Chinese magic trick.


3....Losing his shirt in shell game hosted by Andy Serling


2....Making pennies out of melted copper




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Very kind of you.





The only thing that bugs me is what I hear from Shapiro..and now this guy......that" he's an offensive player at a defensive position."




Which would be great if he could play defense.
The problem with the team this year is not defense to this point. Cabrera will be the full time shorstop at some point if not right now as you prefer. I think the biggest concern right now is the complete lack of power from the three "power" hitters alledgedly...Hafner, Martinez and Garko. Martinez is hitting well, but as of mid May you generally want more than Zero homers from your cleanup hitter. The only player in the lineup having his "typical" type season is Sizemore. No one else is even really close. Incredible as it may seem, I'd actually call Blake their second most productive offensive player so far behind Sizemore. That is not really what you want. Hafner is the guy completely killing them I think. Shelton's usefullness as a hitting coach seems to be fading to me. They are not .500 right now becuase of poor defense or pitching. It is completely offensively related. You should generally win games you get 9 shutout innings from your starter.
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The problem with the team this year is not defense to this point. Cabrera will be the full time shorstop at some point if not right now as you prefer. I think the biggest concern right now is the complete lack of power from the three "power" hitters alledgedly...Hafner, Martinez and Garko. Martinez is hitting well, but as of mid May you generally want more than Zero homers from your cleanup hitter. The only player in the lineup having his "typical" type season is Sizemore. No one else is even really close. Incredible as it may seem, I'd actually call Blake their second most productive offensive player so far behind Sizemore. That is not really what you want. Hafner is the guy completely killing them I think. Shelton's usefullness as a hitting coach seems to be fading to me. They are not .500 right now becuase of poor defense or pitching. It is completely offensively related. You should generally win games you get 9 shutout innings from your starter.

I can't argue that for the most part....but great plays by at least Gutierrez and Martinez avoided late inning runs in that game.


It's really baffling and it's a shame the great pitching they get is too often wasted.Wedge continuing to mess with young talent,though,really s upsetting. If you choose to go with Fransisco and Frank...then play them every day.You won't know what you have until you find out so one has to show these guys some confidence.Not that it's the problem...but he messes with young talent too much.
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